LOGIC AND THE FOUNDATIONS OF PROTESTANTISM

The Coming Home Network ^ | Brian W. Harrison

[Quix]

That’s more shockingly true than I ever imagined.

[Quix]

Appreciate your kind thoughtfulness.

However, there are two bright points to being such an ‘assault attractor.’

1. More Heavenly points.

2. Others don’t get attacked so much. Happy to be of service! LOL.

[annalex]

All the earthly things you worry about are the things that reveal Faith. They do nothing to save you. All you have to do is believe The Gospel God takes care of the rest.

This would be true and accord with the scripture if by faith you mean a well-formed faith. That would not contradict James 2 and be generally the Catholic teaching. If, however, by faith you mean a profession of faith not accompanied by good works and, worse unconcerned about them ("God takes care of the rest") then you contradict Romans 2, James 2 and Matthew 7 at the very least.

[annalex]

I was correct and the quote showed it.

The quote about obeying and honoring the bishop, believing in the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist, and staying away from heretics showed that St. Ignatius meant "universalist" when he said "Catholic"?

[Petronski]

The quote about obeying and honoring the bishop, believing in the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist, and staying away from heretics showed that St. Ignatius meant "universalist" when he said "Catholic"?

Maybe if it were posted in bold blue?

[annalex]

I think he was probably there at some time, but never really as a bishop. If that were so there would have been some kind of record.

We know that he was there based on the Babylon reference, and there is no reason to think that he would do in Rome anything different than what he did in the scope of the Acts: apostolic work on priestly formation. This is what bishops do.

[Quix]

Calling an impressionable young girl “sweetheart” is low road?

Perhaps you'd be willing to tell me WHEN, OH WHEN

Did Marvelous Magnificent, Magical Archetypal Earth-Mother Mary turn this 61 year old white-bearded old character

INTO

"an impressionable young girl" . . . much more so a sweat heart to the RC cult reps????

And when will my new body appear? And does that mean I don't have to re-learn all the lessons from 16-61?

Actually, I think I'll send the miracle back for a refund.

I like being male. And I like being as old as I am. i don't want to repeat ANY years, thank you very much. I like being closer to graduation in these 'interesting' times.

But hey, if you GENUINELY want to call me sweatheart . . . . out of an authentically affectionate and caring heart before God . . . who knows and searches all hearts . . . far be it from me to prevent THAT. There's too little genuine healthy affection to go around these days--especially from RC's to Prottys. Very touching.

[Quix]

My guess is that you know full-well what I meant.

As does God.

So rubberized mangling of my words will not matter to those onto the LINGUISTIC RUBBERIZED TWISTINGS of the RC cult reps.

[Petronski]

The rest of your post was false information about Catholicism. And yes, God knows.

[Quix]

I could say it is a Baptist tradition that we were the church that baptized Jesus. It was John the Baptist after all and it is tradition. Doesn’t make it true, does it?

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What an excellent analogy about how the magicsterical arrives at “rubberized ‘truth’ “! LOL

[annalex]

You are not fooling anyone...

I am married. Best of virtual side-hugs.

[Quix]

You are not fooling anyone...

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About what?

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Thanks anyway, but

I try to avoid hugging prickly pears . . . sidewise or otherwise.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Calling an impressionable young girl “sweetheart” is low road?

Your memory is failing again, Anna.

To: Quix
Relax, sweetheart.
401 posted on 03/25/2008 8:41:16 PM PDT by annalex

Want to know what I think of Calvin, again?

lol. If it makes you feel better to defame God's saints, then knock yourself out.

"He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth a slander, is a fool." -- Proverbs 10:18

[Dr. Eckleburg]

It is so clear "believe", just believe everything else will follow. The key to the kingdom is the indwelling Holy Spirit which is in in all believers.

We preach Christ Crucified and we are called foolish or lacking sophistication on these threads. You've seen it happen several times. It's even more sad than putting flowers on the feet of a statue on Resurrection Sunday.

Amen. And even this God-ordained clarity is denied by those who would enslave us to the law and the doctrines of men. As if.

"Be not afraid; only believe." -- Mark 5:36

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Please show me God’s Word that forbids asking Mary to intercede..

Please show me God's Word that forbids asking Pamela Anderson to intercede.

And I "responded to the post about the Bread of Life" for the 100th time. If you still insist on misreading the Scriptures, pray for clarity.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I don’t think the hungry crowd took them home to spread flowers around them.

Or to sell them. Don't forget some poeple think there's good money to be had in those relics.

[Quix]

Thanks for your help toward trying to improve some reality testing! LOL.

[fortheDeclaration]

Clearly Scripture shows the Blessed Virgin Mary was an intercessor superior to even Abraham.

Neither can do anything for anyone today.

[ovrtaxt]

haha I’m 39, and my opinions are changing all the time!

I see the keys and al that as being given to whosoever will enter into the Covenant. It’s funny how Catholics point to Peter all the time, while pastors I know always point to James’ role in Acts 15, et al, to justify their roles.

I reject both of those narrow views. I see a family of brothers and sisters in the household of God. Some are elder brothers, but they don’t run the house- God alone does that. So by the absence of special leaders, we all become special leaders.

As for the ‘true leadership’ vs. ‘leadership class’ question, if the character already exists, why does there have to be an outward indication of one’s status then? Why the robes, the titles, the special places in the rituals? If the character is there, that’s enough for me.

Could is be because people who seek such an office don’t want to work for a living? I know that’s a cynical generalization, but in many cases I believe it’s true.

I will elevate no man above my position- because Jesus Himself is there, and may another never come between us.

We can even see this attitude in the architecture of a typical church. You have a raised alter from which ‘ministry’ is dispensed, while the common folk sit in pews at a lower level, facing the special ones. The gifts and callings of the pew sitters lie dormant during a typical church service, while the special people get to exercise theirs. How then do we adhere to Paul’s suggestion that we all show up prepared to minister to one another? To edify one another?

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve attended church and left, wondering what I just accomplished- or what blessing I missed from the person sitting next to me.

[papertyger]

Yes- 'the Elders AMONG you'. Not over you.

And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labor among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake.

1Thes 5:12-13

At what point does the descriptor "stiff-necked" or "rebellious" become appropriate?