Would Jesus Christ Celebrate Easter?

Good News Magazine ^ | Spring 2008 | Jerold Aust

[Uri’el-2012]

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

At least that's what God told Paul to tell us...Is Paul wrong???

No!

Read the next verse:

29  Also, if you belong to the Messiah, you are seed of Avraham and heirs according to the promise.

if you accept Yah'shua (YHvH be my salvation in the Hebrew),
you are Grafted in.

b'SHEM Yah'shua

[Uri’el-2012]

Then why not celebrate it on the Elohim defined day
and not the Pagan defined day ordered by Constantine.?

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua

[xone]

‘why do you celebrate the Pagan replacement for Passover?’

Christ’s death and resurrection pagan? Christians now pagans. Your comment reminds me of the early Christians laying Jewish law upon converted Gentiles. The Passover Lamb is Christ. Celebrating His death and resurrection aren’t pagan practices. My replacement for Passover is the Lord’s Supper.

[Diego1618]

‘.....many folks are confused when it comes to this “Law” thing.’ Diego

Not to be uncharitable, but I think you are one of them. Christ’s sacrifice was sufficient and it the only thing that is. "xone"

O.K., you are having problems understanding something that is actually quite simple. Let's try again!

[Colossians 2:14][Ephesians 2:15] These verses do not do away with God's laws. The term ordinance is the Greek word "Dogma" and refers to human laws and decrees. [Mark 7:7-8] Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. Can you see that He is speaking of "Talmudic" Law?

Our Lord referred to these Pharisees as hypocrites in verse 6. In verse 13 He says they have nullified the word of God through their tradition.....their Talmudic interpretations! This was the law that Our Saviour nailed to the cross with his atoning sacrifice!

His death also did away with animal sacrifice and eliminated other priestly duties [Hebrews 7:12]....but there still remained the law. Again....Our Saviour said He had not come to do away with....but fulfill [Matthew 5:17]. Paul refers to this Law as "Holy, just and good" [Romans 7:12].

[Deuteronomy 4:40] Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, for ever. God's laws are with us forever. Man's laws....."Dogma"....come and go. If you cannot see the difference I'll just say.....blessings to you and your household.

[The Mayor]

Thank you for posting this.

[EBH]

Jews took a lamb, slaughtered it, and put the blood on the door posts so their home would be passed over by the angel of death.

The Christian recognizes the death of the Christ and in celebrating the last supper marks the door posts of his soul to be passed over for the everlasting death to come.

We do celebrate passover, but it is of the Eternal kind.

[Wuli]

a late-nite radio host once gave a wringing rebuke to his fellow christians

after hearing the message of Yeshua, instead of following HIM in the path HE directed, they continue to debate the directional sign HE left - was it made out of word or stone, did it point east or west, was it shaped like a circle or a triangle, was it painted red or was it painted white ———

neither the man-made ‘day’ of a celebration, nor the man-made physical accoutrements used to display a celebration define a celebration - it is defined in your heart, by that which your heart is celebrating

if one must rebuke some christians for easter, as much could be condemned, with as much scholarship, for the dec 24th christmas holiday, yet to what benefit????

[xone]

‘O.K., you are having problems understanding something that is actually quite simple. Let’s try again! ‘

Save the condecension.

‘Again....Our Saviour said He had not come to do away with....but fulfill [Matthew 5:17]. Paul refers to this Law as “Holy, just and good” [Romans 7:12]. ‘

Again, no problem. Christ fulfilled the Law, ‘God’s laws are with us forever.’ including these.

You are the one who has limited the Lord’s work, and seek to substitute your view. As stated before no one keeps the Law. It doesn’t mean the Law is invalid or done away with. You in your piety keep portions of Mosaic law and seek to convince others to do so. When faced with the fact that no one save Christ has ever kept the 10 Commandments you shift to Talmudic Law. God didn’t write Talmudic Law. Christ fulfilled God’s Law. In Christ Christians are freed from the curse of the Law. The eternal penalty for transgressing it is GONE.

Will one be chastised for transgressing the Law despite Christ’s sacrifice? Could be, as God wills. But there is no eternal implication because Christ stands in my place at Judgement Day. God the Father sees Him instead of me, His righteousness not mine. Thank God for that.

All of the above is a result of my faith in Christ, given to me by Christ via His Grace. I didn’t do anything to earn it, I have his rightousness whether I go to Church on Saturday, Sunday or any other day of the week. On Easter as on Passover.

[Diego1618]

You in your piety `keep portions of Mosaic law and seek to convince others to do so.

I already said in post #64 that you could have the last word......but to the above comment I'll just say this.....

???.............scratching his head.............

[xone]

The reference is to your assertion of keepin Mosaic Law. You haven’t, have you? The piety referred to your braying about it.

[raygunfan]

exactly, the three legged stool is the mainstay of christianity.. the word, his church, sacred tradition.... When you remove anyone of these, then the stool topples...
The main problem as I see it is.......much of your tradition is not sacred.................in the slightest! [Mark 7:7]

ME: you are making the same mistake that others make...you are waiting for everything to be spelled out in the bible describing any and all practices, and if it isnt, you claim it is wrong or not christian, that is simply a mistake and the earliest church history, FROM THE WRITINGS OF THE CHURCH FATHERS, who witnessed and participated in, and knew the apostles and their successors, SHOW THE EXACT OPPOSITE, the SACRED TRADTIONS were well accepted and considered entiriely in line with the christian faith...

[Uri’el-2012]

XS> ‘why do you celebrate the Pagan replacement for Passover?’

Christ’s death and resurrection pagan? Christians now pagans. Your comment reminds me of the early Christians laying Jewish law upon converted Gentiles. The Passover Lamb is Christ. Celebrating His death and resurrection aren’t pagan practices. My replacement for Passover is the Lord’s Supper.

63 posted on 03/16/2008 2:45:21 PM MDT by xone

I never said the Christ's death and resurrection was Pagan !

I never said that followers of the Christ were Pagans !

If the Passover Lamb is the Christ,
then why not celebrate on the day that He has commanded ?

Celebrating His death and resurrection on Pagan feasts
is just that Pagan and blasphemous.

I find no reference in the Holy Word of Elohim of the "Lord's Supper"

John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[xone]

Prior to the betrayal of Christ, He and his followers celebrated the Passover together. According to the biblical accounts of that celebration would you find them to be in line with the Passover tradition?

Did Christ on that occasion command them to do anything that had not been done before? If so, what was it?

‘Celebrating His death and resurrection on Pagan feasts
is just that Pagan and blasphemous.’

Celebrating His death and resurrection anytime is neither pagan nor blasphemous.

[Diego1618]

FROM THE WRITINGS OF THE CHURCH FATHERS, who witnessed and participated in, and knew the apostles and their successors, SHOW THE EXACT OPPOSITE, the SACRED TRADITIONS were well accepted and considered entirely in line with the Christian faith...

For the most part.....here is what the early church fathers brought us.

Clement: [Epistle to the Corinthians] "The high priest has been given his own special services, the priests have been assigned their own place, and the Levites have their special ministrations enjoined on them. The layman is bound by the ordinances of the laity." A.D. 95

Ignatius: [To the Ephesians] "Your REVEREND presbytery is tuned to the Bishop as strings to a lyre...Let us be careful not to resist the Bishop, that through our submission to the Bishop we may belong to God...We should regard the Bishop as the Lord Himself..." A.D. 110

Tertullian: [Roman of Carthage] "The supreme priest (that is the Bishop) has the right of conferring baptism: after him the presbyters and deacons, but only with the Bishop's authority. Otherwise the laity also have the right...how much more is the discipline of reverence and humility incumbent upon laymen (since it also befits their superiors)...It would be idle for us to suppose that what is forbidden to PRIESTS is allowed to the laity. The distinction between the order of clergy and the people has been established by the authority of the Church." A.D. 200

Cyprian: [Bishop of Carthage]"If Christ Jesus our Lord and God is Himself the High Priest of God the Father, and first offered Himself as a sacrifice to the Father, and commanded this to be done in remembrance of Himself, then assuredly the priest acts truly in Christ's place when he reproduces what Christ did, and he then offers a true and complete sacrifice to God the Father, if he begins to offer as he sees Christ Himself has offered." A.D. 250

So.....from the original concept of a local church being led by elders in a short 250 years this is what the church fathers brought us. A huge priesthood now doing a sacrificial mass with a centralized head......that eventually became infallible.

[Hebrews 7:11-12] If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Whereas Out Saviour's atoning sacrifice eliminated the priesthood.....the fathers in a short 250 years gave us back exactly what Our Lord's actions had done away with!

[raygunfan]

history speaks against your fallible view, sorry.

[madison10]

Yes, but it is celebrated on a Sunday.

[magisterium]

Ah, yes! This article comes from "The Good News: A Magazine of Understanding." This would be the magazine of a splinter-group successor to Herbert W. Armstrong's Worldwide Church of God, yes? Unfortunately for the late Mr. Armstrong, his many novel doctrines are all over 1900 years too late in their formulation to be expositions of "authentic, primitive" Christianity, and most of the others that he borrowed seldom have, in turn, more than a 200 year-old pedigree themselves, which is equally incapable of establishing apostolic origins to the doctrines! Armstrongism is little more than a cult, in which an appreciation for historical Christianity is of no concern whatsoever. Lauditory, extensive use of that hack and fraud Hislop (!) as source material for much of this article is certain proof of this magazine's complete disregard for the continuous, 2000-year witness of true Christianity, from the Apostolic Era to the Early Fathers, and down to our own day.

What utter rubbish this article is! It makes objections that never existed for very near 1900 years since the time of Christ, and still dares to complain of the novelty of Easter celebrations! Whew!

[Diego1618]

Yes, but it is celebrated on a Sunday.

So was this: On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for grain sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost. Constantine 321 A.D.

This is also about the time when "The First Day of the Week" began appearing as translated scripture instead of "One of the Sabbaths". [Matthew 28:1][Mark 16:2][Mark 16:9][Luke 24:1][John 20:1][John 20:19][Acts 20:7] and [1 Corinthians 16:1]

[Uri’el-2012]

What utter rubbish this article is! It makes objections that never existed for very near 1900 years since the time of Christ, and still dares to complain of the novelty of Easter celebrations! Whew

When you can not refute the argument, ridicule !