Posted on 03/11/2008 8:05:54 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Well, darn!
This effort is already complete:
Nearly 500 years after the Reformation began in 1517, Lutherans and Catholics resolved one of the issues that began the Reformation era when they signed the Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification in 1999.
But, of course, you guys don't like that one, because the Vatican didn't run up the white flag and cave.
They aren't going to run up the white flag and cave to the Muzzies, either.
The Pope planting a big sloppy one on the Koran seems to be pretty darn close.
Is that a fact? Lutherans. I see.
Rome resolved one of the issues with Lutherans.
One of the Lutheran groups that was a signatory to that document was the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. That's right. Our own ECLA. I'm sure you know about them Campion. Female priests. Pro-abortion. Typical failing liberal mainline church.
I trust you take great pride in the fact that Rome and ELCA are one step closer.
Oh wheee.
Would I prefer to have some sort of commonality with the WELS and the LCMS? Sure I would.
The first thing we can "dialogue" about with them is why we don't really agree with them that the Pope is antichrist, as both of them continue to formally, publicly, profess in their confessions of faith.
There probably won't be time, or occasion, or reason to discuss much else.
Indeed.
But then we never expected any slam dunk on such things . . .
Though one of us believes God is moving in startling ways on such fronts.
I pray it is so.
How DARE someone try to respect a Catholic!
The declaration said the churches' consensus on basic truths means that the doctrine of justification is not a church-dividing issue for Catholics and Lutherans even though differences between them remain in language, theological elaboration and emphasis surrounding those basic truths.
The most under-reported story of the past century.
The article which made the original claim, also breathlessly informed us that it was all being done because the Pope wanted to soften his image after the "Protestant Churches aren't really true Churches" controversy.
Big red flag. That told me the whole article was complete garbage.
Chalk up another one for "The Times" of London; Rupert Murdoch's publication of record for matters Catholic.
Well, since we're going to stick to the issues,
-why doesn't the Catholic church recant TrentOnly then can anyone have an honest dialog. Oh sure, you can sign a document with the ELCA and claim that progress has been made. But conservative Reformed and Lutherans will never, ever go along with such unless Rome were to take such steps.
-stop using condescending terms like "seperated brethren" when speaking of non-Catholic Christians
-and, formally acknowledge that the full benefits of Christ are sealed in all who claim the biblical title Christian
How does any human being 'rehabilitate' a dead person?
(2) What do you want us to call you? "Heretics and schismatics"?
(3) formally acknowledge that the full benefits of Christ are sealed in all who claim the biblical title Christian What does that mean? Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are "sealed" in the "full benefits of Christ"?
In any case, for the most part the traditional Protestant groups won't talk to us. We can hardly be blamed for failing to talk to those who want talk to us. Dialogue predicated on the unilateral prior surrender of one of the parties is not dialogue.
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