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To: skr

Look, it’s quite simple. You even admit it, albeitly with metaphysical excuses, that Jesus died.

Therefore, if Jesus was G-d, then G-d died.

G-d cannot die, ergo... Jesus wasn’t G-d.

Q.E.D.


32 posted on 03/09/2008 9:48:52 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla; skr; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; wmfights; Forest Keeper; Mad Dawg; hosepipe; ...
Look, it’s quite simple. You even admit it, albeitly with metaphysical excuses, that Jesus died.

Therefore, if Jesus was G-d, then G-d died.

G-d cannot die, ergo... Jesus wasn’t G-d.

Q.E.D.

Your conception of God is anthropomorphized. God can do anything.

For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. - Isaiah 55:8-9

Anthropomorphisms of God are broken cisterns:

For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, [and] hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water. – Jeremiah 2:13

God's Name is I AM - and Alpha and Omega.

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. – Revelation 1:8

I [am] he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. - Revelation 1:18

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. – Revelation 22:13

Jesus Christ is the Living Word of God.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. – John 1:1

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the preeminence.

For it pleased [the Father] that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, [I say], whether [they be] things in earth, or things in heaven.– Colossians 1:15-20

To God be the glory!

33 posted on 03/09/2008 10:08:06 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: gogogodzilla
Look, it’s quite simple. You even admit it, albeitly with metaphysical excuses, that Jesus died. Therefore, if Jesus was G-d, then G-d died. G-d cannot die, ergo... Jesus wasn’t G-d. Q.E.D.

I think your confusion has to do with a misunderstanding of the Godhead. The Godhead is composed of two persons, the father and the son. They are real, spirit beings with a form that we can't discern, but real forms nonetheless.

When the son incarnated, he gave up his spirit body and became flesh and blood.

Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

The thing that most of Christianity doesn't understand is that man is NOT created with an eternal soul. We really truly die when we die.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The choice is "perish", die, or eternal life. We don't have an immortal soul. We RECEIVE eternal life through faith in Christ.

So when Christ became flesh, he really truly died on the cross. God, the father and son, bet the farm that when the son came to earth that he would not sin. If he HAD, he would still be dead.

He earned the right to eternal life because he did not sin, did not break any of God's laws:

Mar 10:17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
Mar 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
Mar 10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honor thy father and mother.

We however can't keep these perfectly, but since Christ did we can gain life by his sacrifice.

Jesus was completely human with the spirit of God dwelling in him. He, at any time, could have done his own human will and thus have sinned and thus could have died forever.

34 posted on 03/09/2008 10:19:47 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: gogogodzilla; Alamo-Girl
[ Therefore, if Jesus was G-d, then G-d died. G-d cannot die, ergo... Jesus wasn’t G-d. ]

What is death?.. Conversely, What is life?..
You seem to have a linear way of looking at things..

What is GOD?.. Can you fully concieve of what God is?..

35 posted on 03/09/2008 10:42:17 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: gogogodzilla

No more so; no less so . . . than any other mortal dying from this time/space dimension.

Seems to me your point is pointless.


36 posted on 03/09/2008 10:43:05 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: gogogodzilla

Jesus rose from the dead because He is God.

Q.E.D.

Take your Christian-hating trolling elsewhere.


43 posted on 03/10/2008 4:22:45 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: gogogodzilla

So who do you say Jesus was?


55 posted on 03/10/2008 6:45:08 AM PDT by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: gogogodzilla

You sound like a Pharisee on the one hand, and a Saducee on the other. Just saying....


57 posted on 03/10/2008 7:17:45 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: gogogodzilla

The earthly body of Jesus died for a couple of days, but His spirit did not. I understand what you are saying, but you are leaving out the metaphysical, or the supernatural, if you will, nature of God. I’m sorry if I am unable to make it clearer to you; I pray that it soon will be.

It’s a curious thing, that some don’t want Jesus to be God.


308 posted on 03/12/2008 11:09:30 PM PDT by skr (How majestic is Thy Name, O Lord, and how mighty are Thy Works!)
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