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To: Alex Murphy
It’s about time that we Catholics got serious about promoting our faith. It’s great to talk about the conversion of hearts but for the past 40 post-Vatican II years we’ve been gun shy about actively working to convert people to the Catholic Church. If we continue to be apologetic (in the bad sense of the word) about our Catholic faith, why would we expect anyone to want to convert. Let’s take a page from the Baptist / Evangelical / Mormon playbook and begin getting active in converting people to the faith, especially through our works of charity. Now we as Catholic actively engage in works of charity but we keep it a hidden secret that “We’re Catholics.” Let’s stop standing on the sidelines while the Protestants are converting people out of our Church. And doing it very effectively. We see this in Central and South America. Let’s get missionary, Catholics.
22 posted on 03/02/2008 3:04:54 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: veritas2002
Let’s take a page from the Baptist / Evangelical / Mormon playbook and begin getting active in converting people to the faith,
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The **most** important and **urgent** mission field of any Christian is their OWN CHILDREN!!! The second most urgent mission field is the children of their own congregation!

It is astonishing to me! Christians send their children to government schools and the chances of that child being converted to the religion of atheistic Secular Humanism is nearly 90% !!!!! Why on earth would any thinking Christian ( Catholic or Protestant) DO THAT???

Please read post #28. If you want to to see Catholicism grow ( and I do!), **never** let a Catholic child darken the door of a Secular Humanist government school!

30 posted on 03/02/2008 6:32:07 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: veritas2002
Let’s take a page from the Baptist / Evangelical / Mormon playbook and begin getting active in converting people to the faith,
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Mormons are continuing to have success in Utah with their children because their government schools are essentially church schools. Their principals and teachers are Mormon. It would be difficult for a non-Mormon teacher to get and keep a job without at least an outward conformity to Mormon standards. Also, the Mormon church has church “seminaries” next to every government high school. The Mormon children attend these seminaries for one period out of every school day.

Having a Mormon based education is a big part of the success that Mormons are having in retaining their youth, sending them on missions, and having them marry in the church.

I don’t know the stats for Mormon children outside of Utah, but if these kids go to U.S. government schools, I am willing to bet their retention rate for their youth isn’t any better than any other religion.

31 posted on 03/02/2008 7:09:35 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: veritas2002
It’s great to talk about the conversion of hearts but for the past 40 post-Vatican II years we’ve been gun shy about actively working to convert people to the Catholic Church.

Actually, I would love to see a conversion of Catholics WITHIN the Church. I have kids in grade school telling me how their classmates watch R rated movies. Daughter of one EEM at our church wears mini miniskirts to church every Sunday, as Catholics we get the same number of abortions as secularists so where to begin? Numbers won't mean anything without a conversion of the heart.

69 posted on 03/02/2008 11:14:58 AM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: veritas2002

I was ready to enroll my children in Catholic High School but the only Catholic schools are located in the inner cities.

The Catholic Church needs to start more schools in the suburbs, where the children actually live.

The nuns say, “Give us your children and we’ll have them forever.”

So. . .my baptized Catholic children are now attending a Lutheran school.


205 posted on 03/03/2008 2:34:25 PM PST by olivia3boys
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