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Study: Catholics losing the faith
Medill Reports ^ | Feb 27, 2008 | Greg Trotter

Posted on 03/01/2008 7:26:21 AM PST by Alex Murphy

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To: Grunthor
And what if one does not believe that the pope is infallable?

Excellent question. What do you think it means when Catholics say the Pope is infallible?

121 posted on 03/02/2008 5:33:56 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: Grunthor

Only in certain pronouncements. Who has been giving you this faulty information?


122 posted on 03/02/2008 5:36:28 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: TradicalRC

I suspect that many RC edifice reps know the authentic history better than I do.

It’s just their biases that prevent enlightenment from the UNRUBBERIZED history.


123 posted on 03/02/2008 5:56:28 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: TradicalRC

Nonsense.

The Canon was essentially set early on.


124 posted on 03/02/2008 5:57:08 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: TradicalRC

It’s an abiding concern.

Short of specific direction from The Lord on it, I continue to try and do as I feel led.


125 posted on 03/02/2008 5:57:48 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Salvation

There have been a LOT of wonderful RC edifice Believers who truly loved God above all else. More power to them.


126 posted on 03/02/2008 5:58:24 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Salvation

No. I don’t believe I have.

But I used to read vast quantities of a wide range. I can’t be certain.


127 posted on 03/02/2008 5:58:51 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Alex Murphy
catholics are not "loosing faith".

They are, finally, waking up to the fact that they can most certainly do without the organization of relegion.

They can keep their spirituality. The most certainly don't need the church imposed restrictions and silly manmade rules brought to them by the Italian curia.

Thanksfully, they are finally realizing this.

128 posted on 03/02/2008 6:02:26 PM PST by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: TradicalRC

What do you think it means when Catholics say the Pope is infallible?

That he is never wrong.


129 posted on 03/02/2008 6:15:22 PM PST by Grunthor (Of two evils, choose neither - Charles Spurgeon)
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To: Salvation

“Only in certain pronouncements. Who has been giving you this faulty information?”

No one, just asking a question.


130 posted on 03/02/2008 6:20:24 PM PST by Grunthor (Of two evils, choose neither - Charles Spurgeon)
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To: Grunthor

Sir,
the Pope can have opinions on the price of Bardolino in Rome, the war in Iraq and what he thinks the Cardinals will do next season, but when he is speaking “ex-cathedra” regarding the faith of Roman Catholics he is infallible.

That is what Roman Catholics believe and if they don’t: THEY ARE NOT CATHOLIC.

That is one of the things that got Luther tossed.

Lurking’


131 posted on 03/02/2008 6:28:38 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Quix
I suspect that many RC edifice reps know the authentic history better than I do.

Ah but you are the one who made the accusation.

132 posted on 03/02/2008 6:45:53 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: TradicalRC

yeah, I’m an optimist sometimes.

Even some RC’s have recognized the truth about their history.


133 posted on 03/02/2008 6:50:06 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Nonsense.

Au contraire, mon frere.

The Canon was essentially set early on.

Indeed it was. St Jerome's Latin Vulgate written around 400 A.D. was used as the canon until Martin "edited" it about a thousand years later. But hey, WE'RE the ones with "rubberized" history.

134 posted on 03/02/2008 6:54:22 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: Grunthor
That he is never wrong.

Okay. I would not believe that, either. If ANY Catholic tells you THAT, please tell them that they do not understand their own dogma regarding the Pope.

135 posted on 03/02/2008 6:56:54 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: Logic n' Reason
They are, finally, waking up to the fact that they can most certainly do without the organization of relegion.

They can keep their spirituality. The(y) most certainly don't need the church imposed restrictions and silly manmade rules brought to them by the Italian curia.

Truly spiritual people embrace religion. It is only liberals who fantasize that they can be spiritual without religion. They tend to hate the fact that God actually DOES have rules.

136 posted on 03/02/2008 7:00:26 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: Quix

So you cannot or will not name these wars of conquest initiated by the Pope(s)?


137 posted on 03/02/2008 7:02:49 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: TradicalRC

You tell me.

I don’t recall the names of such events.

My reading on that score was decades ago.


138 posted on 03/02/2008 7:06:05 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

I’ve read enough on this thread, and haven’t replied until now, but have to say most of these posts are ridiculous and by uninformed non Catholics. And that’s fine, but arguing with people who have no clue about a certain issue tends to get tiring especially when said persons refuse to have an informed debate and resort to name calling and lies.

Any time I read and posted on threads primarily from the Mormon religion, something I know little about, most of the replies were at least civil. Catholics are civil too. That’s probably the reason we don’t protest must, fight those who discriminate against us daily. Probably the reason the media and low lifes think it’s ok to trash the Faith.

I don’t know what your Faith is or what your religious affiliation is, but from your posts I know it doesn’t matter. You certainly don’t represent it well.

You had the opportunity to teach and learn and did neither.

Just my 2 cents.

And now I know better than to even read any threads in the “religion” forum and to skip over any in the front page (at least the front page as it used to be, still working on the new format thing).


139 posted on 03/02/2008 7:19:17 PM PST by Twink
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To: Twink

Hogwash.

RC Edifice reps, in my experience and in the experience of many I hold dear hereon

. . . have been the MOST personally assaultive and mean-spiritedly insulting and attacking of any folks I’ve encountered on the web or off in many years.

And relentlessly, repeatedly so.

My heart bleeds purple peanut butter.


140 posted on 03/02/2008 7:24:19 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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