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To: pegleg

“Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God . .”

Christ = The Word of God
The Holy Spirit in the inner man, provided we have believed Christ and asked our Heavenly Father for the Holy Spirit to guide us.
The written Word . . which is needful for all men.

I did NOT say that NOT BEING MARRIED is abnormal. I said that DISALLOWING (as the Roman Catholic Church does in the case of its priests) marriage forces men, who MAY have made youthful choices for the wrong reasons, to live in a state of abnormality, homosexuality and hypocrisy or else the shame of forsaking the priesthood. REALITY has produced the revolting developments that have cost RCC members (ordinary hard-working people) millions of dollars.

No, you don’t actually “get it”, you can’t really “get it” from the vantage point of any other person until you walk a few steps in their shoes.

Tell you what is to be believed? - The Roman Catholic Church hierarchy and mans’ tradition have already done that.
You’ll have to research that yourself if you still have questions. We all have to do that for ourselves.

The standard Roman Catholic’s answer to any comment on the centuries old trails of rivers of blood and “abuses” is just the standard “oh, yes, there have been abuses - but, oh well, they ALL have done it!”.


98 posted on 03/02/2008 9:31:45 AM PST by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God . . .)
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To: Twinkie
I did NOT say that NOT BEING MARRIED is abnormal.

OK. So you agree celibacy is the normative state for the unmarried?

I said that DISALLOWING (as the Roman Catholic Church does in the case of its priests) marriage forces men,

You must be referring to Latin Rite Catholics. Eastern Rite Catholics and Eastern Orthodox ordain married men. I will point out these men are not being “forced” to do anything. There is a 4-6 year discernment period they go through to validate if they truly have the calling.

who MAY have made youthful choices for the wrong reasons

No doubt there are a small percentage of Priests who go through the formation period, get ordained and them fall to temptation.

REALITY has produced the revolting developments that have cost RCC members (ordinary hard-working people) millions of dollars.

The REALITY is the small percentage homosexuals who were ordained as priests should have been screened out to begin with. That’s the root of the problem. That problem is being addressed.

No, you don’t actually “get it”, you can’t really “get it” from the vantage point of any other person until you walk a few steps in their shoes.

So what is it I don’t get and whose shoes do I need to walk, in? You spout off opinions about a celibate priesthood being “abnormal”. So I’ll ask, have you ever been a Catholic Priest? Have you ever had a conversation with a Catholic Priest? If not, you don’t actually “get it”, you can’t really “get it” from the vantage point of any other person until you walk a few steps in their shoes

Tell you what is to be believed? - The Roman Catholic Church hierarchy and mans’ tradition have already done that…. You’ll have to research that yourself if you still have questions.

As I thought, you don’t have an answer.

The standard Roman Catholic’s answer to any comment on the centuries old trails of rivers of blood and “abuses” is just the standard “oh, yes, there have been abuses - but, oh well, they ALL have done it!”.

The Catholic Church is comprised of sinners and Saints. What about your church?

111 posted on 03/02/2008 1:29:23 PM PST by pegleg
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