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To: Mrs. Don-o; Twinkie
The New York Times (believe me, no friend of the Catholic Church) did an independent analysis of all the records involving priestly abuse in the U.S. Catholic Church. The NYT study found that 1.8% of the priests had been accused of abuse over the past 50 years.

With all due respect, Mrs D., the John Jay Study (see threads here, here, and outside coverage here) - commissioned by the U.S. Catholic Bishops' National Review Board itself - found that the number of accused Catholic priest abusers equaled four percent of the entire Catholic priest population. The John Jay study's findings are more than conclusive - they're exhaustive of the entire US population of Catholic priests. Surely you're not suggesting that the New York Times would be as more reliable source of information than the John Jay Study?

We all share your disgust about the sexual molestation of children. You might want to continue your research here, at a website dedicated to researching child sexual abuse by Protestant ministers. Get back to us on it when you can, OK?

As I've said elsewhere, every study I've been shown of "Protestant" abuse (including the website you've linked to) included volunteers and laypersons. The John Jay Study did not address these groups when they looked at Catholic parishes. If we exclude volunteers and laypersons from the "Protestant" studies (thereby creating a "pastor vs priest" apple-to-apple comparison), we arrive at a roughly 1% abuse rate for all "Protestant" pastors, or (in other words) at least a four times greater likelihood that any given Catholic priest will be a sexual predator, as compared to any given "Protestant" pastor. And that's according to the numbers and studies that Catholics keep telling me about.

Let me throw in one caveat to those comparisons. I found something interesting when I broke down the "Protestant" abuse cases by denomination / affiliation / theological leanings. The more free will / Arminian / synergistic the theology is, and the more independent the association is (as opposed to denominational affiliation), the higher the abuse statistic goes - and conversely, if you just look at the Reformed Protestant denominations, the number of "Protestant" abuse cases statistically drops off the chart by comparison. It's only the average of all "Protestant" pastors that is around 1%. Some independent churches have statistics that are far, far higher than the Catholic average of 4%.

85 posted on 03/01/2008 8:30:18 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: Alex Murphy
Wassup with you and Catholicism, the Catholic church and Catholics?

You show up on every Catholic thread bashing everything and anything about Catholicism, Catholics & the Catholic church.?

FYI, genius, we are ALL sinners.
gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

I guess what they say is true, “Catholicism is last ‘safe’ bigotry!”
And you apparently are vying for chairman of the board.

97 posted on 03/02/2008 8:33:14 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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