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To: Titanites
You should really try the Scripture. Even though it is a Catholic book, I think it might do you some good. It might even cause you to wonder what the bishops, presbyters, and deacons it mentions were all about.

Sure, you bet...OK...Show us all in YOUR scripture where the 'church' is an architectural showpiece...Where the chuch Jesus founded is full of exceedingly valuable paintings, stained glass, curtains of valuable cloth, valuable metals and jewels, unsurpassed beauty, rituals and chants...

C'mon, there's the challange...

Don't try to snooker anyone with the OT synagogues and temples...We're talking the New Testament church...The body of Jesus Christ...Show us some scripture that cantradicts the ones I posted...

15 posted on 03/01/2008 8:24:23 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Congratulations, it’s not often one of the Catholic haters gets in on the first 10 posts. It usually takes at least 15 posts. But please be sure to ping ETH, Eckelberg, and all the others as they seem to be slacking.


16 posted on 03/01/2008 8:32:58 AM PST by cammie
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To: Iscool
Sure, you bet...OK...Show us all in YOUR scripture where the 'church' is an architectural showpiece

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that Catholics believe the Church is a building.

Where the chuch Jesus founded is full of exceedingly valuable paintings, stained glass, curtains of valuable cloth, valuable metals and jewels, unsurpassed beauty, rituals and chants...

So, you think that Jesus founded a Church that prohibits the enjoyment of the beauty of God's creation? Please show me that in Scripture.

Show us some scripture that cantradicts the ones I posted...

It is strange that you believe Scripture can contradict itself.

17 posted on 03/01/2008 8:40:57 AM PST by Titanites
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To: Iscool

In Matthew, did not Christ himself tell the cured leper to show himself to the priest and present the offering Moses commanded, if he didn’t consider it right for legal observance in a holy place?

You could say the need to be pronounced clean by a priest is because the person couldn’t re-enter society without it;
The law must be obeyed (again, only a priest can declare this);
To provide a witness.

You could also say that Our Lord was showing he followed the law;
So that the priests would not persist in their unbelief;
Or just making it possible the former leper could enter society.

In any case, there are specific offerings in Leviticus to be offered, we assume it was the temple... and not the backyard.

Luke 4:15-20 may need some explaining as well.


63 posted on 03/01/2008 3:53:46 PM PST by AliVeritas (DEUS VULT - 0311)
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To: Iscool; Titanites
Don't try to snooker anyone with the OT synagogues and temples...We're talking the New Testament church..

The Catholic Bible begins with the Book of Genesis and ends with the Book of Revelation.

"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One!

There is but one throne in heaven on which sits Jesus Christ. He created the universe and spoke to Abraham. He is the one who directed how worship was to be offered. We are a Trinitarian Church - 3 persons in one God.

71 posted on 03/01/2008 4:35:31 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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