lol, um, no. I said it is an act of obedience. Scripture commands us to be baptized. Nowhere does it command us to sprinkle children.
Are you going to tell me that every child that has been "baptized" is elect?
I said we have nations of unbelievers who were "baptized" at birth. Many have never made a confession of faith and never will. I do hold that they were never baptized in the first place though, as they should be old enough to know what it is and partake in it.
Nope. Only God knows the names of the elect. But we have His promise that our children are included in the new covenant. Was the promise made to us and our children, or not?
I said we have nations of unbelievers who were "baptized" at birth. Many have never made a confession of faith and never will. I do hold that they were never baptized in the first place though, as they should be old enough to know what it is and partake in it.
And that's where we differ. Cognition is not what makes one saved. That's an answer from Rome -- "Acquiesce to this and then you are saved." Christ's atonement is what has saved us. Which is why children were included in the promise in the first place.
Our love doesn't save us; His love saves us. And His love came first.
Were the children of believers under the old covenant included in the promise? Yes.
Were believers under the old covenant told to recognize their children as members of God's promise by circumcision? Yes.
Likewise, we under the new and better covenant are to bring our children to Him to be recognized as His possession, given to us by God for His safe-keeping.
Here's a great little Q and A from a former Baptist, now baby-splashing Presbyterian who offers an excellent defense of infant baptism which I don't think can be easily refuted...
Nope. Only God knows the names of the elect. But we have His promise that our children are included in the new covenant. Was the promise made to us and our children, or not?
I said we have nations of unbelievers who were "baptized" at birth. Many have never made a confession of faith and never will. I do hold that they were never baptized in the first place though, as they should be old enough to know what it is and partake in it.
And that's where we differ. Cognition is not what makes one saved. That's an answer from Rome -- "Acquiesce to this and then you are saved." Christ's atonement is what has saved us. Which is why children were included in the promise in the first place.
Our love doesn't save us; His love saves us. And His love came first.
Were the children of believers under the old covenant included in the promise? Yes.
Were believers under the old covenant told to recognize their children as members of God's promise by circumcision? Yes.
Likewise, we under the new and better covenant are to bring our children to Him to be recognized as His possession, given to us by God for His safe-keeping.
Here's a great little Q and A from a former Baptist, now baby-splashing Presbyterian who offers an excellent defense of infant baptism which I don't think can be easily refuted...