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To: al_c

“...you will see that any unbiased timeline will point to the RCC as the beginning Church.”

al_c, the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church indeed was established by Christ at Pentecost. Until 1053 the Church of Rome was not only in communion with, but indeed was the first see of that Church. Sadly, on account of papal pretensions to universal immediate jurisdiction and the adoption of innovative theologies in contradiction to the dogmatic pronouncements of the Ecumenical Councils, the Church of Rome went into schism from the other Patriarchates of The Church. The Church of Rome itself further fractured at the time of the Protestant Revolution. The Eastern Patriarchates meanwhile preserved The faith inviolate and thus were never subjected to the upheavals of an internal schism on anything like the scale the Roman Church experienced in the 16th century.

Happily, since the papacy of +Paul VI, Rome has made great gestures of reconciliation with the Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Churches which have resulted in the hope filled dialogs in Belgrade and Ravenna. I suggest, however, that the sort of Latin triumphalism your posts have suggested only reinforce the opinions of Orthodox hierarchs, monastics and laity who are aopposed to even discussions with the Roman Church let alone a reunion.


72 posted on 02/28/2008 9:57:23 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Happily, since the papacy of +Paul VI, Rome has made great gestures of reconciliation with the Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Churches which have resulted in the hope filled dialogs in Belgrade and Ravenna.

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"Happily" indeed! It is a welcome advance for many of us.

76 posted on 02/28/2008 10:03:05 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Kolokotronis
For sake of argument, and to not muddy the waters so much for the sake of our truly separated brethren, let's say this is a "perspective" thing! The real issue here is that the author claims that the Catholic Gospel is radically different from what he considers to be the "pure" one. To that extent, it can be surmised that he would also intend to lump in the Orthodox position, too. It is expedient for both lungs of apostolic succession to be united in this one, no?
77 posted on 02/28/2008 10:04:21 AM PST by magisterium
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