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Report: Vatican to 'review' taking of Communion in the hand
Earth Times ^ | February 25, 2008

Posted on 02/25/2008 5:48:28 AM PST by NYer

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To: NYer
The Vatican wants the host "placed directly into the mouths of the faithful so they don't touch it (with their hands)... because many don't even realize they are receiving Christ and do this with scant concentration and respect," Ranjith said.

Then lets train folks in respect.

As much as I liked the kneeling at the communion rail, I do believe that receiving in the hand is closer to the command of Christ – “Take this and eat” and what happened at the last supper.

21 posted on 02/25/2008 7:32:01 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICTED)
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To: DogwoodSouth

Including some who shove their chewing gum to one side of their mouths when they “pop” the Host in. I’ve actually seen them go down to Communion chewing gum. It’s amazing.


22 posted on 02/25/2008 7:34:06 AM PST by livius
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To: FatherofFive

Nobody knows exactly what Jesus did or exactly what happened at the Last Supper. However, the practice of the Church for centuries - in fact, millenia - both in the East and in the West - was for the priest to place the Host or the consecrated species, in the case of the Eastern Church, in the mouth of the communicant.

One of the problems in our modern analysis of things is that somehow we follow the Protestant approach of trying to jump back to some original point in time that (a) we really don’t know with any certainty because we weren’t there and they didn’t make a video; and (b) is separated from us by some 2000 years of development of doctrine and practice, which we certainly have no right either to skip over or throw out. So I think Catholics have more to consider than the speculations of Biblical scholars on what may or may not have happened at a certain moment in the life of Jesus.

That said, we still have our communion rail up! It’s a beautiful malachite and marble railing. Our current pastor has been angling to take it down, but it has some historical value and a number of defenders, and now if Rome comes along and supports Communion on the tongue, it will be logical to start using it again. Woo hoo!


23 posted on 02/25/2008 7:41:57 AM PST by livius
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To: Bear_Slayer; wideawake; NYer; Romulus; Pyro7480
Church law for the past, say, 40 years does not prohibit the laypeople touching the Sacred Host with their hands. And why would there be somebody there with a camera? ("Hey, ---snarf--- wouldn't it be funny if some lady with bodacious tatas was receiving Communion, and ....") Meh. This video was someone's 12-year-old boy's idea of a joke.

However, the practice of allowing only the priest to touch the Blessed Sacrament goes back to the Old Testament, where only the Jewish priests could touch the Ark of the Covenant which contained the manna and the scrolls of the Law. 1 Chronicles 13:8-10.

When my boys were young (and receiving Communion in the Russian Orthodox Church) I used the holiness of Communion as an analogy to chastity: that the parts of the body which generate life are consecrated, and the spouses are consecrated to each other in the Sacrament of Matrimony, and therefore (with the exception of doctors in the event of medical treatment) only spouses should touch each other's private parts.

But this is what happens when the sense of sacredness of the Blessed Sacrament declines: we become gross and stupid in our perception of spiritual things, and all sanctity declines.

Now there's almost nothing you can even use as an analogy of sacredness. Nothing strikes us as being awesome. No "take off your sandals, for you are standing on holy ground." No "depart from me, Lord, for I am a man of unclean lips." No angel with a burning ember to purify the mouth of the prophet. No sense that there exists any "mysterium tremendum." No numinous dread mixed with solemn joy, awe or awe-fullness, neither for God nor God's image.

It's as if someone had a rheostat, and turned God's mystery and glory down to minimum. It barely registers anymore.

24 posted on 02/25/2008 7:44:30 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Only the consecrated should touch the consecrated." St. Augustine)
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To: battlecry

and the “greet your neighbor” handshakes, and the holding hands during the Our Father, and the corny life teen mass with electric guitars and drum sets...the list goes on :)


25 posted on 02/25/2008 7:46:15 AM PST by BudgieRamone (God loves machinists--someone has to..:))
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To: wideawake

Video is in this reel.

http://www.youtube.com/v/9UQFdngUliI

It was a wedding, and nobody knew what to do. The bride eventually retrieved it.

No paten was used.


26 posted on 02/25/2008 7:48:52 AM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: battlecry

That’s why I go at 7:30 AM. Short and sweet, usually without hymns and virtually always done by 8:00 AM even for Christmas and Easter.


27 posted on 02/25/2008 7:53:05 AM PST by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel, FreeRepublic and pookie18 Rocks!)
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To: FatherofFive
I do believe that receiving in the hand is closer to the command of Christ – “Take this and eat” and what happened at the last supper.

Remember, though, that it was the 12 Apostles - Jesus' 'choice' followers - who were present at the Last Supper, and became the first bishops.

28 posted on 02/25/2008 7:53:39 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: wideawake

I bet that many who receive have never been told of the requirements. 30+ years with no real teaching creates a lot of folks who are ignorant (not necessarily disobedient). I can’t remember ever hearing a priest talk about it, at least not from the pulpit.

Freegards


29 posted on 02/25/2008 8:01:27 AM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: FatherofFive
closer to the command of Christ – “Take this and eat” and what happened at the last supper.

Except Christ didn't speak English and we don't know what happened at the Last Supper. And it's still a Middle Eastern practice, at least sometimes in a relationship of any kind of friendship or affection, to "feed" someone a bit of something right to the mouth.

30 posted on 02/25/2008 8:09:13 AM PST by maryz
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To: Pyro7480; wideawake

It was on America’s Funniest Home Videos. A wedding video to boot.

Had there been a paten, it wouldn’t have happened.


31 posted on 02/25/2008 8:13:27 AM PST by netmilsmom (Giving up "Hairspray" and the cast for Lent. Prayers appreciated!)
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To: Dominick
The bride eventually retrieved it.

Thank you.

As it turns out, there was no talk in the video of the priest being the only one holy enough to retrieve it, or of the woman being unholy and unable to, or any such nonsense referred to above.

What we have are a couple of individuals who are obviously flustered at an embarrassing mistake and who are trying to correct it.

No paten was used.

A common oversight in parishes that usually practice communion in the hand as their default.

32 posted on 02/25/2008 8:14:00 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: NYer

Should they work on bringing back no meat on friday first?


33 posted on 02/25/2008 8:14:50 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: FatherofFive

When I was preparing for my First Holy Communion, everything stressed respect or this was the Body of Christ we were receiving. We were also taught to receive the host in our hand, for practicality reasons. Our priest suffered from Parkinson’s and little seven year old tongues and Parkinson’s hands did not mix well.

I still take Communion in the hand. The one time I tried taking it on the tongue, the priest hit my nose with the host which then bounced off the plate and onto the floor. I figure, better in my hand than in the aisle.


34 posted on 02/25/2008 8:15:46 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: BudgieRamone

>>and the “greet your neighbor” handshakes, and the holding hands during the Our Father, and the corny life teen mass with electric guitars and drum sets...the list goes on :)<<

Yepers! I’m down with this. How about if we stop the “Catholic calisthenics” and get back to a Holy Mass?


35 posted on 02/25/2008 8:18:36 AM PST by netmilsmom (Giving up "Hairspray" and the cast for Lent. Prayers appreciated!)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

No meat on Fridays never went away....

>>This is what the new Code of Canon Law brought out in 1983 says about the matter:

Canon 1251
Abstinence from meat, or from some other food as determined by the Episcopal Conference, is to be observed on all Fridays, unless a solemnity should fall on a Friday. Abstinence and fasting are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.
Canon Law still requires that Catholics not eat meat on Fridays!

Of course, most Episcopal Conferences have determined that, instead of abstaining from meat, Catholics may perform an act of penance of their choosing. But, do you ever remember to abstain from a particular food or do some other penance on Fridays? And, at any rate, the main rule is still to abstain from meat on Fridays, the performance of another penance instead is an optional alternative. <<


36 posted on 02/25/2008 8:20:36 AM PST by netmilsmom (Giving up "Hairspray" and the cast for Lent. Prayers appreciated!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

ITS A CRACKER!


37 posted on 02/25/2008 8:23:14 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: Bear_Slayer

What a crazy racist thing to blurt out.


38 posted on 02/25/2008 8:26:46 AM PST by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Ransomed

39 posted on 02/25/2008 8:28:34 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: NYer
I am in support of returning to communion on the tongue. I go to a variety of parishes regularly and sometimes I do receive in the hand. I feel very awkward receiving on the tongue when I am standing (for fear of the host dropping) than I do when I am kneeling for communion. I hope that if they do implement this policy it would bring back more use of the altar rails.

I also wonder what this would do to the distribution of communion by the laity. Although there are times I believe it is essential it has become widely abused in most parishes. In a parish with more than one priest there is no reason why on Sunday masses they all (along with the deacons) cannot assist instead of lounging in the rectories or socializing.

40 posted on 02/25/2008 8:45:51 AM PST by Fast Ed97
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