Well, then you would be quite in error, regarding my view...Murray is interesting, and I have a habit of trying to put myself into other peoples shoes, and trying to seek their perspective...and from certain peoples perspective, certain questions come about..., Like this one, that many people ask... ‘Where did Cain get his wife from’, is a frequently asked question...often it is answered by others, that Cain married his sister...the questioner than wonders about incest, only to be told, that ‘Oh, incest was not prohibited during that time’...now a lot of people are unwilling to accept that answer...
Murray provides an answer, that is more satisfying to many people...and his answer would be, that Cain married one of the offspring of the people that God created on the 6th day of creation, and since Cain was the product of Adam and Eve, created on the 8th day of creation, Cain simply married one of the offspring of the people created on the sixth day, and therefore, incest was not involved...now, I dont believe I ever said, I believed such a thing, what I said, was that for ‘some’ people this provided an answer that they are willing to believe and accept, and I can understand that, if I can try to imagine their perspective...
Now, for many people, this answer is more satisfying than being told that Cain married one of his sisters..from their perspective, it makes much more sense...
I have not said that I have believed what Murray teaches, I have said, that I can see, how from someone elses perspective, what he teaches may satisfy their questions, that they feel have not been sufficiently answered in the past, by mainstream Christian churches...
So again, I stresss, I view Murray as ‘interesting’, not important, except that in the overview of things, Murray and his teachings have had an impact on many people, some right here on FR, for they do believe in what he teaches about...so Murray and his teachings are as important to me, only as much any other religious teacher...I can find him interesting and different, that certainly does not mean I think he or his teachings are important to me...
If anything, how and what Murray teaches just underlines and stresses what I have been saying...that you can take a whole group of people, from various Christian religions, ask them to all read a certain passage, or verse, or chapter from the Bible, and they will all come up with different meanings, some different only slightly, but some different to a much greater degree...
Hence, what we see today, within the Christian community is quite understandable...so many religions, claiming to be Christian, and all claiming to have the one and only truth...but as we can clearly see, many of them have ‘truths’, which are completely opposite of what another Christian religion says is the ‘truth’...
The admonition from Jesus was ‘to be Born Again’. What follows after that in the way of doctrinal methodology used to ‘walk the walk’ is where variation in Christian sects derives. With Mormonism, being born again is something that occurs ‘after all that you can do’ thus it contradicts the most fundamental tenent of Christianity. The other vagaries of Mormonism are the dross which cannot ‘unsave’ someone, but which will not save one either.
“Murray provides an answer, that is more satisfying to many people...and his answer would be, that Cain married one of the offspring of the people that God created on the 6th day of creation, and since Cain was the product of Adam and Eve, created on the 8th day of creation, “
This is weird, but your posts about Murray seem to go from passionate selling of him to a withdrawal from deep knowledge of him, where you imply that he is just something you recently stumbled across.
Here is a somewhat recent post of yours where you write that you barely know who he is, you don’t even know his first name, even though for more than a half a year many of your posts showed you to be a huge and dedicated fan of his using his first name always when addressing him.
You seem to want to sell him to FR but in an under the radar way, here is that more recent post where you seem to barely know who the guy is.
>”Just for my own information, I was wondering if you are someone who follows, or at least subscribes to many of the views of a Rev. Murray...I cannot remember his first name, tho his sons name is Dennis...I may have asked you this before, if so, I apologize...
But I find many of your views, to coincide exactly with Rev. Murrays beliefs concerning the Bible...”<
Here is what one web site says that Rev. Arnold Murray teaches about Adam an Eve and the eighth day of creation:
THE IMPLICIT RACISM OF ARNOLD MURRAY
Anglo-Israel Origins
Mr. Murray teaches Anglo-Israelism which believes that Anglo-Saxons are the chosen race, and America and Great Britain are the lost tribes of the children of Israel. Murray claims that the northern ten tribes of Israel are the “the same tribes that later went north and populated Europe and North America.” (The Shepherd’s Chapel newsletter #148, 2-91) According to the theology of Anglo-Israelism, other races are inferior to whites, and usually the blacks and Jewish race are particularly stigmatized. Murray, on the other hand, says that he respects blacks and other races. However, he believes these races were the Adam created on the sixth day of creation in Genesis 1, while the Anglo-Saxons were another Adam created on the eighth day of creation based on his interpretation of Genesis 2. Hence, there is a definite distinction between whites and non-whites. Arnold Murray also promotes the literature of other Anglo-Israelism teachers. The Shepherd’s Chapel Book List, for instance, offers materials by E. Raymond Cap. And J.H. Allen.
http://www.mission.org/jesuspeople/arnmuray.htm