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To: andysandmikesmom
And in do so, we also get a good look at you...you expose yourself...so it works both ways, as it should....and the last laugh may just be on you...folks will see that you have decided that you have the authority to judge who is and who is not a Christian...

That's exactly right; they are learning that I know the Scriptures and do not hesitate to state the truth, no apologize for a lie.

What ‘truth’ you seek to proclaim, is merely the ‘truth’ as you personally happen to see it...lurkers and other posters will of course, take that for what it is worth...and may vehemently disagree with you...

The Truth isn't what someone owns or personally sees. Joseph Smith "personally saw" something and claims it's "the truth." But it is not. The words of Mormon leaders are thus:

"virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ"
(McKonie; Mormon Doctrine, p. 269)

"The traditional Christ of whom they [non-Mormons] speak is not the Christ of whom I speak"
(Hinckley; LDS Church News Week 6/20/98, p.7)

Something is either the truth or it is a lie. The truth: Christ's deity has been denied. In fact, according to Mormon doctrine, Jesus is a creation, the product of relations between god and his goddess wife who used to be people from another world (Mormon Doctrine by Bruce McConkie, pp. 192, 321, 516, 589). Jesus is the literal spirit brother of Satan/Lucifer as well as each and every person (McConkie, pp, 192, 589). According to Mormon doctrine, God has a body of flesh and bones (Doctrine & Covenants, 130:22.) as does his wife and together they produce spirit offspring in heaven who inhabit human bodies on earth.

These things put Christ down into creature being rather than Creator. Furthermore, according to Mormon doctrine, there is no trinity; they claim the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are separate, individual beings. The evangelical, pentecostal, non-denominational, as well as, denominational Christians (such as the Catholics) are in agreement: God is a triune God: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are One.

John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Hebrews 1:

1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the
prophets at many times and in various ways,
2 but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son,
whom He appointed Heir of all things, and through whom He
made the universe.

3 The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the
exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by
His powerful word. After He had provided purification for
sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
4 So He became as much superior to the angels as the name He
has inherited is superior to theirs.

5 For to which of the angels did God ever say,
"You are My Son;
today I have become your Father"? Or again,
"I will be his Father,
and he will be My Son"?


6 And again, when God brings His firstborn into the world,
He says, "Let all God's angels worship him."
7 In speaking of the angels He says,
"He makes his angels winds,
His servants flames of fire."
8 But about the Son He says,
"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of Your kingdom.

"Isaiah 43:10,11. Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD [Jehovah] and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God [Elohim] formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD [Jehovah]; and beside me there is no savior.

Note from these verses that there are several things which God wants us to know, believe, and understand: (1) There is only one God (Elohim) and Jehovah is that one true God. (2) There were no Elohims formed before Jehovah. This means that Jehovah does not have a Father. That is, no God (Elohim) preceded him, by whom He was procreated. (3) There will be no Elohims formed after Jehovah. Therefore, when God said no gods would be formed after him, it must mean no real, true Gods.

any lurkers remain lurkers, simply because they do fear going into the fray, and do want to be set upon, by others telling them that they can be ‘Christian’ if and only if, they come up to some other posters personal standards of what determines who is and who is not a Christian...

The "personal standards" are those according to Christ's Words, which they may either accept or reject.

So it does please me quite a bit, that you continue on, in this way, everyone can make up their mind about you, and about me, and about everyone on this thread and every other thread...that is good..nothing funny or hilarious about it, as you have tried to intimate...

Oh good, I'm so glad they can 'come to know us' and what we each stand for, or not. And thanks again for providing the opportunity for me to post the Truth. It makes my day! : )

314 posted on 02/22/2008 6:45:45 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo

All you post, is what you consider to be the truth...no matter how many times, you try to say, that you know the truth, that does not make it so...keep repeating the same stuff, that does not make it so....all you have done is repeat and repeat and repeat the same stuff, and it is nothing more than your own personal opinion, which people can take or leave...

Your saying it is the truth, does not make it so...

So, you have made my day, tho I am sure, you did not intend to...


366 posted on 02/22/2008 7:22:26 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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