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To: nicmarlo

What I actually said was that anyone who equated plural marriage and child abuse needs professional help. Plural marriage is illegal in the United States. Child abuse is both illegal and immoral and dastardly. Now if you and your ilk care to make some more lies about what I said, go ahead.


1,172 posted on 02/26/2008 7:15:45 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man; pby
OMM: What I actually said was that anyone who equated plural marriage and child abuse needs professional help. Plural marriage is illegal in the United States. Child abuse is both illegal and immoral and dastardly. Now if you and your ilk care to make some more lies about what I said, go ahead.

Child abuse IS illegal and immoral. However, that is separate from the comment made by pby who specifically commented on the prophets' polygamy with teenage girls. Moreover......subjecting teenage girls to polygamy is illegal, immoral, and abusive, just as it is concerning ANY female, if one calls himself a Christian.

However, it has been noticeably absent your condemnation of plural marriage being abusive to women, in addition to the fact that you have yet to condemn the prophets' actions of taking multiple wives, many of whom were but teen girls, and many of whom were ALSO married to other men. Even your latest post excludes POLYGAMY as immoral, although the New Testament clearly states that Christian leaders are to have but ONE WIFE....something you yourself apparently still don't think is immoral and do not condemn; in fact, you still haven't even condemned the polyandrous marriages of the "prophets," which is way beyond "just plural marriage."

Your own words, and silence on these abominations, speak volumes:

1 Timonthy 3:

1 Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer, he desires a noble task. 2 Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife...

12 A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well. 13 Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.


1,191 posted on 02/27/2008 10:34:10 AM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: Old Mountain man; nicmarlo
C'mon...

Look at posts 88, 89, 1033 and 1037.

I posted about polygamous marriage with teenage girls and you responded that it was insane to equate this with child abuse and that anybody who did was an idiot. Go look...it is there. I even reposted it and gave you a chance to relent...but you did not.

Now...answer the questions that were posed to you: Does polygamous marriage, with teenage girls, constitute child abuse?

And...does polygamous marriage, with adult women, constitute abuse?

And...did Joseph Smith commit child abuse when he married multiple teenage girls?

You are hiding behind your baseless allegations of lying. No lying, or misrepresentations of what you said, have occurred...just answer the plain questions and your specific positions on the issue of polygamy will be clarified for all to accurately see.

1,192 posted on 02/27/2008 10:36:08 AM PST by pby
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