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FLDS Parents Could Face Charges for Abandoning their "Lost Boys"
KCPW News ^ | February 14, 2008

Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet

They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.

"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."

H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.

"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."

Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: az; flds; jeffs; lds; mormonism; nottherealldschurch; polygamy; ut
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To: Godzilla
Oooops, looks like he's run out again.

Yep.

1,581 posted on 02/29/2008 9:05:29 PM PST by pby
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To: SkyPilot

It is you who slip and slide thinking things you don’t understand is fodder for your rebuttal!

Plural marriage that is an ordinance of the Lord does not bother me how many times do I have to say it!

Natural man’s plural marriage would bother me, but an santified ordinance of God dose not!

All you can do is scream plural marriage beyond that your knowledge fades!


1,582 posted on 02/29/2008 9:12:39 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: SkyPilot
There is a new "rule" now - Christ. This is the Church Age.

It's the same rule. The Old Testament saints were saved by grace through faith, but their sins were not atoned until the cross. Christ paid the price for the sins of the whole world. It is by grace through faith that the effect of that atonement is made manifest.

1,583 posted on 02/29/2008 9:16:36 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: MHGinTN
Would you like to answer for the rel mod?

I didn't ask the rel mod anything. I asked you.

1,584 posted on 02/29/2008 9:23:03 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Old Mountain man

In history it was not illigal and there is a differents if one is married for time and eternity or just eternity!

The day Helen Mar Kimball was married she return and continue to live with her parents and did not attend many of the adult functions.


1,585 posted on 02/29/2008 9:26:49 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: Old Mountain man

It is so clear these men here dwell on this because their minds are fixesated in their own experiences in life and think every one else share their depraved imagining.


1,586 posted on 02/29/2008 9:32:01 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: SkyPilot

You still think you can earn your way to salvation?

you think you can turn words around and that makes them real?

You maybe saved but in what section of the neighbor!


1,587 posted on 02/29/2008 9:34:20 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: pby
First of all, the New Testament requires that you earnestly contend for the faith...Do you not have to follow the God-breathed words written in the book of Jude? (If you say that you do not have to follow them, then I will note this as another reason that you are not a Christian denomination.)

We are when we are doing the will of the Father not the concepts of men!

1,588 posted on 02/29/2008 9:35:39 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: pby; Godzilla

...do what satisfy your egos!!


1,589 posted on 02/29/2008 9:38:30 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: P-Marlowe

NO & NO


1,590 posted on 02/29/2008 9:39:43 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: restornu; All
The conversation has fallen into personal digs back and forth. I'd like to keep this thread from been so locked, so ...

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

1,591 posted on 02/29/2008 9:42:50 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: MHGinTN

Are you paranoid?

If the Mod was LDS what of it?

He could be Muslim or Hindu than what?

He could be a follower of Joel Osteen...


1,592 posted on 02/29/2008 9:46:14 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: restornu

Go have a piece of sweet candy and read post #1591 ...


1,593 posted on 02/29/2008 9:47:38 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Not thank you I don’t like sweet candy!


1,594 posted on 02/29/2008 9:49:00 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: restornu
Plural marriage that is an ordinance of the Lord does not bother me how many times do I have to say it!

Not even with a 14 year old girl? That doesn't bother you?

And...how do you know that plural marriage was a sanctified ordinance of God?

1,595 posted on 02/29/2008 9:49:50 PM PST by pby
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To: restornu
We are when we are doing the will of the Father not the concepts of men!

Oh...so you definitely won't defend The Pearl of Great Price then, right?

1,596 posted on 02/29/2008 9:52:18 PM PST by pby
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To: pby

No it does not bother me, when there was consent from the parents!


1,597 posted on 02/29/2008 9:55:53 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: restornu

I believe that!


1,598 posted on 02/29/2008 9:56:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: pby

There is no need to continue this conversation it is you who have the problem with the LDS Standard works.


1,599 posted on 02/29/2008 9:58:46 PM PST by restornu (Maybe your are a church mouse! cheese cheese...)>)
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To: restornu
No it does not bother me, when there was consent from the parents!

Why was Helen's mother so heartbroken, then?

And when the prophet tells you that your 14 year old daughter needs to marry him so that your entire family can be saved...What kind of consent is that...coerced consent?

1,600 posted on 02/29/2008 9:59:07 PM PST by pby
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