[annalex]

Before this is understood as a call to some staid classicism, let me point out that art and beauty are not the same. Art is about truth, while beauty is about goodness. If truth is ugly, art enters a complex relationship with beauty.

Modern art, -- or, rather, the first half of the 20 century art -- tended to be ugly but not all of it was bad. We had an ugly century and we had art showing so. Some 20c art did it with ugly pithiness, but inasmuch a there was truth in it it was art.

Guernica
Pablo Picasso
1937

[RobbyS]

But Father is right about the lack of objectivity. So much of it is deconstruction of form, even of color. How can truth shine through when one does not show things as they are, much less how they ought to be? I find a lot of truth in Turner, just as find truth in some of the realist literature, because they are really protests against degredation, not celebrations of it.

[dsc]

“Modern art, — or, rather, the first half of the 20 century art — tended to be ugly but not all of it was bad. We had an ugly century and we had art showing so. Some 20c art did it with ugly pithiness, but inasmuch a there was truth in it it was art.”

Disagree absolutely.

http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/Philosophy/philosophy1.asp#name

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

***Guernica
Pablo Picasso
1937 ***

Goya said it better through his paintings and drawings of the Napolionic invasion of Spain.