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Haven't Anti-Mormons Completely Destroyed the Credibility of Mormonism?
jefflindsay.com ^ | Nov. 5, 2006 | Jeff Lindsay

Posted on 02/16/2008 3:13:15 PM PST by restornu

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To: sevenbak
Oops, left out the other quote from C.S. Lewis. Though, it’s essentially the same as the ones I just posted.

“There are no ordinary people. We live in a society of possible gods and goddesses” (Weight of Glory, William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company [Grand Rapids, Michigan], pp. 1P15)...

541 posted on 02/18/2008 8:50:53 PM PST by sevenbak (Shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. - 2 Timothy 2:16)
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To: Saundra Duffy
A slightly more accurate eleventh article of faith:

We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience as dictated by the President of the Church, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship however incorrectly, wherever wrongly, or whatever idolatrous beings they may, since Christian clergy are dimwitted hirelings of Satan.

542 posted on 02/18/2008 8:53:00 PM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: Saundra Duffy

No problem. I’m checking the end of this thread. Now I can go crawl back under my rock. Keep on keeping on!


543 posted on 02/18/2008 8:53:32 PM PST by sevenbak (Shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. - 2 Timothy 2:16)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Another non-answer, CTR there baby, CTR!


544 posted on 02/18/2008 9:00:08 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: sevenbak

Psalms (82:1,6)
1 A canticle of a psalm for Asaph.
2 O God, who shall be like to thee? hold not thy peace, neither be thou still, O God.
3 For lo, thy enemies have made a noise: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
4 They have taken a malicious counsel against thy people, and have consulted against thy saints.
5 They have said: Come and let us destroy them, so that they be not a nation: and let the name of Israel be remembered no more.
6 For they have contrived with one consent: they have made a covenant together against thee,

Odd how you mangle the Holy Writ there. I misdoubt that you have mangled CS Lewis as well. Playing word games is fun but doing so with the Word is wrong. I suggest you repent of such sins.


545 posted on 02/18/2008 9:05:31 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Indeed. Sadly what he said was a PERVERSION of THE WORD..


546 posted on 02/18/2008 9:07:02 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Zakeet

No, thanks for the link.


547 posted on 02/18/2008 9:08:27 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Zakeet

I love my Church. I love my Savior.


548 posted on 02/18/2008 9:12:28 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: sevenbak; narses
Psalm 82:

1- A Psalm of Asaph. God hath stood in the company of God, In the midst God doth judge. [Three in One, by the way; God speaks to Himself and takes His Own council]

2- Till when do ye judge perversely? And the face of the wicked lift up? Selah
. 3- Judge ye the weak and fatherless, The afflicted and the poor declare righteous.
4- Let the weak and needy escape, From the hand of the wicked deliver them.
5- They knew not, nor do they understand, In darkness they walk habitually, Moved are all the foundations of earth.
6- I -- I have said, 'Gods ye [are], And sons of the Most High -- all of you,
7- But as man ye die, and as one of the heads ye fall,
8- Rise, O God, judge the earth, For Thou hast inheritance among all the nations!

Hebrew Transliterate:

1- MZMVUr L'aSPh 'aLHYM NTShB B'yDTh-'aL BQUrB 'aLHYM YShPhT.
2- 'yD-MThY ThShPhTV-'yVL VPhNY UrSh'yYM ThSh'aV-SLH.
3- ShPhTV-DL VYThVM 'yNY VUrSh HTShDYQV.
4- PhLTV-DL V'aBYVN MYD UrSh'yYM HTShYLV.
5- L'a YD'yV VL'a YBYNV BChShKH YThHLKV YMVTV KL-MVSDY 'aUrTSh.
6- 'aNY-'aMUrThY 'aLHYM 'aThM VBNY 'yLYVN KLKM.
7- 'aKN K'aDM ThMVThVN VK'aChD HShUrYM ThPhLV.
8- QVMH 'aLHYM ShPhTH H'aUrTSh KY-'aThH ThNChL BKL-HGVYM.

“Verses two through four inform us as to the identity of these gods whom God judges. They are none other than judges, or magistrates of the land. They were rulers who were perverting judgment through their office and authority. Because of this it is declared, "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes" (Psalm 82:6-7). The Lord had given these rulers their authority, but they abused it (Daniel 4:25, 30, 34-37; 5:18-22; Romans 13:1-4). As a result of their evil stewardship over the offices of God, the Lord said they would fall like one of the princes. In this passage, then, those who are called gods are human judges in the land of Israel.

549 posted on 02/18/2008 9:12:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Indeed. Does that love make it impossible for you to answer simple questions?


550 posted on 02/18/2008 9:14:54 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses

I am not required to answer any questions about my faith. This is America where we are free to worship as we see fit according to our own conscience. You are free to do the same. Hallelujah!


551 posted on 02/18/2008 9:18:27 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: narses
I’m using the King James Version. Oh the difference “modern translations” make. Can there be any doubt as to Joseph Smiths intent when he said “translated correctly”

Did you know your own translation was so much different than the one your forefathers used? I’m trying to turn over a new leaf here, but honestly, how can you make such accusations without even looking up the King James Version, which you know we use. (and so, apparently did C.S. Lewis)

KJV - Psalms 82:
1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

552 posted on 02/18/2008 9:18:37 PM PST by sevenbak (Shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. - 2 Timothy 2:16)
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To: Saundra Duffy

What’s w/your poems? Does it make you feel ‘approved’ to post them or looking for approval?

It’s all surface - trying hard to make it all appear ‘nice’.
Fluffy sweet icing on the poisoned cake.


553 posted on 02/18/2008 9:19:10 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: MHGinTN
Christ did not agree with your interpretation. He himself quoted from Psalms 82 when speaking to his disciples.

John 10:34-35
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

554 posted on 02/18/2008 9:21:31 PM PST by sevenbak (Shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. - 2 Timothy 2:16)
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To: presently no screen name

What little you read is a lie.


555 posted on 02/18/2008 9:21:35 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Does that make it impossible for you to answer simple questions?


556 posted on 02/18/2008 9:21:47 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Elsie

Because it is true.


557 posted on 02/18/2008 9:22:59 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: sevenbak; narses
Re. C.S. Lewis supported Mormonism theology?

My sides ache from laughing at that preposterous idea.

As explained in some detail HERE:

Not only do [Lewis'] works not support the Mormon theology of deification, in fact they expressly contradict it. Each of the Lewis citations have been taken out of their contexts and twisted. In addition, frequently in his writings about humanity’s eternal destiny, he carefully clarifies the eternal and impassible gulf between the only Creator and His creatures, including humans.

In the future, you may want to do a little more research before posting such an obvious lie.
558 posted on 02/18/2008 9:25:52 PM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: Elsie

Okay, I know that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of All Mankind. His basic doctrine is that of repentence and love.

What is your problem with that? Hard to misquote?


559 posted on 02/18/2008 9:26:39 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: restornu; Saundra Duffy
Like I said your parents are LDS so even if you left you are of the same DNA

Let me try again:

Is the Jesus you claim to worship the "spirit brother" of Lucifer or the "Creator" of Lucifer?

BTW I just think it is quite telling that you guys simply refuse to answer the question.

560 posted on 02/18/2008 9:30:23 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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