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To: farmer18th
If you are calling Ehud a murderer, when scripture clearly indicates he was brought forward in answer to a prayer to God,

God executes His will in all sorts of ways. David murdered Uriah. That doesn't make what David did right, it simply happened. Uriah's time to die was appointed to him by God and that is the method that God chose for Uriah.

Ehud murdered the king. So? All men are sinners and all men do bad things-even Christians. Sometimes we do those bad things in the name of the Lord. So what? Peter tells us "let none of you suffer as a murderer, or a thief, or an evildoer, or a meddler in the affairs of others" (1 Pet 4:15) Peter felt that being a murderer was just as bad as meddling in the affairs of others.

By this logic, Jesus was a sabbath-breaker for defying the Pharisees, who were, after all, in authority over Him.

Your premise is wrong. The Pharisees were NOT in authority over Christ. He made that perfectly clear on several occasions.

124 posted on 02/18/2008 5:28:30 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
Context clearly indicates David was killing so as to have Uriah's wife. There is no defense for that, and, of course, the end of the Biblical story makes that clear. Not so with Ehud. His act is seen as a virtuous act of heroism and an answer to the prayers of the faithful. There is not a single trace of divine judgement towards Ehud anywhere in scripture, or towards Rahab, or towards the midwives, or towards Jesus for overturning the money changers' tables.

The Bible is not really a simple man's game. The definition of heresy is literally to lift one truth out of the whole and make it your gospel hobby. That is precisely what John MacArthur is doing, and it really is no more than cowardice, because the truth is it is much easier, much less stressful, much more comfortable to simply obey any and all edicts that come down from the magistrate, but that is simply not the plain spoken word of scripture, nor is it the story of our Lord.

I count it a victory for the story of Christian civilization that the Nuremberg trials did not accept your logic, and your excuse--"I was just following orders."
125 posted on 02/18/2008 5:38:33 PM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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