Posted on 02/10/2008 11:25:15 AM PST by Reaganesque
Yup, that thread was a winner! I have downloaded material from thet thread I’m still using. There were a few really scholarly posts, too.
Are you recognizing your mistake regarding the prohibition of religious bigotry on this forum?
I am not going to let YOU define what "religious bigotry" is.
How's that?
Let's play a game: Truth or Bigotry:
I'll start.
Mormonism is a false religion founded by a false prophet.
Truth or Bigotry?
No doubt you have.
And I've seen the moderators ignore it, even when it was brought to their attention.
And you know why they do, as well.
Don't act so WOUNDED.
You also know that the charge is hurled by the LDS Organization members at those who 'disagree' with them as well.
If you can get the FACTS about anything declared BIGOTRY, then the muzzling is complete.
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Galatians 1:7-10
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 2 Corinthians 11:14-15
14. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
If one believes the Bible is correct, then, by that Standard, Mormonism fails the test.
If, however, you are convinced that the Bible is either in error, been corrupted or mis-interpreted, then you are free to believe whatever you wish.
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So true!
You claimed that I was wrong in suggesting that religious bigotry was prohibited here.
I provided proof that it was prohibited.
Are you humble enough to admit admit your error and to apologize to the person you wrongly attacked?
Seems like a good idea to post such messages, but I did not want to replicate threads unnecessarily.
Yep
and to apologize to the person you wrongly attacked?
I didn't "attack" anybody. I merely said that "religious bigotry" is not prohibited. In a sense I'm right because what you define as "religious bigotry" is nothing more than posting an opinion with which YOU disagree or a fact that you don't want to face up to.
Now let's play Truth or Bigotry:
The Mormon Church is a false religion founded by a false prophet.
Truth or Bigotry.
Now, I use my threads as a Bible study and discussion forum. When I first started the Sunday School Bible study, I thought they were "supposed" to be caucuses. Now however, since the thread that I mentioned, they are open to anyone as long as the discussion is BIBLICAL. That is the only thing I ask for.
These "caucuses", in my opinion, defeat the purpose of an open forum such as Free Republic. I WANT people to read the threads I post and the discussion that takes place in them. This is one form of witnessing for me. And really, do I want to just witness to folks that already agree with me? I don't think so. I want to be able to share the Gospel of Christ with those who may not know it or just disagree with it. But, just because they disagree with me, doesn't make them bigots toward Baptists. (They can still be wrong without being bigots:~) )
Anyway, I have matured in my debate skills and now use only Scripture for my arguments.
In Christ...Alone!
I like that. Thanks.
Start a thread to discuss religious bigotry and I’m all game. Change the topic of this thread?
Not game.
Apology accepted.
I am forwarding an e-mail that is recently making the rounds. I thought it might be of interest to you since you stated here that you are Catholic:
Mormon Threat
Why Catholics are easy targets
for Mormon evangelists—
and what we can do to keep Catholics Catholic.
The Mormon church has been in the news a lot recently. The head of the church, styled its “prophet,” recently died. Many dignitaries attended his funeral, including a major political candidate whose Mormonism has been discussed a lot these last few months.
Mormon evangelists have been taking advantage of their church being in the headlines. They have been doing their best to invite Americans to take a closer look at their religion.
Many people have been doing just that—especially Catholics. In fact, in recent years the majority of converts to Mormonism have been Catholics.
It makes sense, when you think about it.
Catholics are targeted by Mormons because many Catholics can be swayed easily by Mormon arguments. That’s because many Catholics don’t know their own faith.
In a way, you can’t blame the Mormons. Targeting Catholics has worked for them, so why shouldn’t they keep their evangelizing focus on Catholics?
What Catholics Don’t Know Can Hurt Them
Think the Mormons are just a group of nice folks who uphold family values, clean living, and American patriotism? Think again.
Think the Mormons are just a slightly eccentric offshoot of traditional Protestant Christianity? Think again.
Think Mormons are actually Christian, accepting the core doctrines of Christianity? Think again!
The truth is that Mormonism is far different from what most people think it is.
If asked, most Catholics would not be able to explain what Mormons believe. Nor do they have a clue what is wrong with Mormonism.
Therein lies the danger—especially today, as Mormonism is enjoying a resurgence in popularity and interest, largely because of recent news coverage.
But the news media aren’t providing useful information about Mormonism.
This worries me—because, as I said, the majority of converts to Mormonism are ill-informed Catholics who are highly vulnerable to Mormon proselytizing.
That’s why Catholic Answers is trying to head off a potential disaster among Catholics.
And we’re going to need your help to make this new project successful.
Here’s what it’s all about …
What Mormons Really Believe
There are many problems with the Mormon religion. In fact, the problems are so numerous, we had to write a special report just to explain and refute them all.
It’s this powerful, eye-opening report that we need to get into the hands of as many Catholics as possible—as quickly as possible—before the Mormon juggernaut picks up more speed and takes in tens of thousands of our fellow Catholics.
This report was written by our director of apologetics, Jimmy Akin, who has done a masterful job of clearly explaining Mormon beliefs … making sense of them … and then charitably refuting them, one by one.
Let me give you a glimpse of what you’ll learn when you read this breakthrough report—and you’ll see why it’s “must reading” for every Catholic in America today …
• Do Mormons really believe they can become the “god” of their own planet?
• Why Mormons claim the Catholic Church is a “church of Satan”—teaching a false gospel.
• Why Mormons believe God the Father was once a human—and became the “god” of planet Earth.
• Do Mormons believe there is more than one “God”?
• How the Book of Mormon itself contradicts core Mormon beliefs and practices.
• What Mormons believe about the Eucharist—it’s not what Catholics believe.
• What goes on inside their mysterious, no-visitors-allowed temples.
• Does the Mormon church approve of divorce and abortion? (The answer will disappoint pro-lifers!)
• Who are the leaders of the Mormon church?
• Do Mormons believe black people are “cursed”?
• Is Mormon baptism valid? What Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, said.
• How Mormons try to convert Catholics to Mormonism—successfully.
• How did Joseph Smith translate the “golden plates”—and why did no one else ever get to see them?
• Mormon doctrines have changed—often.
• Did Joseph Smith develop his teaching on polygamy only after betraying his wife?
• Joseph Smith: the “martyr” who died in a gunfight, shooting at people.
• Mormons dropped some of their unpopular teachings in order to clean up their public image and appeal to more Americans.
• Joseph Smith’s background before he started the Mormon church—and how this affect his credibility
• The psychological and emotional elements that attract people to Mormonism.
All this—and much more—is covered in Jimmy Akin’s new special report. We will send it to you with our compliments when you help us with our project to distribute it nationwide.
You see, the new Mormon threat is more serious than ever before.
With all the talk in the media about Mormonism, more and more people are curious about Mormonism and are visiting Mormon web sites.
But these web sites are deceptive. They do not explain the true beliefs of Mormonism. They try to convince readers that Mormonism is a Christian faith—in fact, the true Christian faith!
As one Mormon web site put it, “Mormonism is the religion most consistent with biblical Christianity. We do not apologize for our beliefs. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the only true Christian church on the face of the earth.”
The problem is … people fall for it—especially Catholics.
In fact, Mormons count Catholics as their main target.
Over half of the current converts to Mormonism are Catholics.
Mormons target Catholics who don’t know their faith.
Sadly, that’s the majority of our fellow Catholics. They’ve been nearly defenseless against Mormon propaganda.
Until now.
With our new special report on Mormonism, we can “inoculate” Catholics from the half-truths and skewed history presented by Mormon missionaries.
By getting this report into the hands of Catholics all across America, we can bolster the faith of Catholics and keep them from leaving the Church.
But an ambitious project like this requires significant funds from generous supporters like you...
(I cut out the rest of the e-mail because it is asking for donations and provides links to donate and I imagine that’s against the rules here.)
FIP Ping to an interesting e-mail in post #94. It seems it’s not just the EV’s.
Where?
I must have missed it.
You left out John 14:6c (JST)
"...as long as it's ok with Joseph Smith."
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.Who has made this so?Have I?Have this people?Have the world?No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.Can you pass without his inspection?No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
"If I ever pass into heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of Prophet Joseph"
--Brigham Young
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224
Wow. What an ugly attack campaign. I am so glad that I do not belong to a religion that preaches such bigotry.
>Think the Mormons are just a group of nice folks who uphold family values, clean living, and American patriotism? Think again.
Of course not. Mormons are a group of nasty folks who crap on family values, espouse perverted living, and spits on the American flag.
Who authored this anti-Mormon campaign?
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