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To: dangus
I think this is clever forked-tongue speech: it sounds like Lennon enough for the college-campus Leninist/Lennonist fans, but to his Jamacian base it sounds like an assertion that He has returned.

Again, I look at it in terms of the Five Percent Nation, Ausar Auset, and a number of other black nationalist ideologies. They have a common thread of divinizing the earth and black people, while denying the existence of spiritual beings as "spook" philosophy invented by whites.

It would seem to dovetail nicely with Communism in som,e regards, except that even Communism and its abstract concepts like "dictatorship of the proletariat" and "dialectic" are considered too theoretical and inauthentic to express pure blackness.

48 posted on 02/07/2008 11:40:02 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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>> It would seem to dovetail nicely with Communism in som,e regards, except that even Communism and its abstract concepts like “dictatorship of the proletariat” and “dialectic” are considered too theoretical and inauthentic to express pure blackness. <<

1. I was talking about Marley and his potentially cynical salesmanship to the US market, which is 30 times larger than his home market of Jamaica.

2. By the 1970s, Soviet-friendly regimes existed in all corners of Africa, so I’d hardly argue that communism doesn’t fit with African nationalism. There certainly are difficulties meshing it with certain beliefs and belief structures, but if it can take root in Christian Orthodox lands, it can take root in Africa... and be twisted into something that seems uniquely African.

3. I’m not at all familiar with Ausar Auset, but the 5%NOI is completely alien to Rasta, is it not? Rasta sees Islam (correctly) as an Arab (white) intrusion into Africa, which is why they DIDN’T see Egypt (for instance) as being independent. I would state that NOI is purely a US phenomenon, and not indicative at all of African pan-African movements, wouldn’t you?


49 posted on 02/07/2008 2:05:06 PM PST by dangus
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