[stfassisi]

“”Quoting Ignatius is always problematic.””

Not when it comes to clear consistencies that were in line with what Saint Ignatius believed that we can trace through the centuries.

We can very easily accept what Ignatius believed from the The writings of Saints like Justin Martyr,Irenaues ,Eusebius and others who said many of the same things. Thus ,the importance of consistent oral tradition as a safeguard.

Like it or not Dear Friend,you use this same principle to believe that the Bible is the word of God since we have only scraps of the originals and no signed copies from the Apostles to authenticate them.

“”BTW there was no big “C”atholic Church at the time of Ignatius.””

I am aware of that, I added the capitols to emphasize it.

I wish you a Blessed Day!

[Uncle Chip]

We can very easily accept what Ignatius believed from the The writings of Saints like Justin Martyr,Irenaues ,Eusebius and others who said many of the same things.

Justin Martur and Irenaeus don't quote any 1st century Ignatius.

Like it or not Dear Friend,you use this same principle to believe that the Bible is the word of God since we have only scraps of the originals and no signed copies from the Apostles to authenticate them.

95% of the New Testament can be reproduced from the writings of the ante-Nicene fathers.

Thus ,the importance of consistent oral tradition as a safeguard.

As a safeguard for what?? perpetual fraud??? and that from the church that writes down everything and documents all of its affairs, and does nothing by word of mouth. Please ---

[OLD REGGIE]

Not when it comes to clear consistencies that were in line with what Saint Ignatius believed that we can trace through the centuries.

We can very easily accept what Ignatius believed from the The writings of Saints like Justin Martyr,Irenaues ,Eusebius and others who said many of the same things. Thus ,the importance of consistent oral tradition as a safeguard.

You may well accept "what Ignatius believed" but you are forced to sift through a mixed salad to quote any of the purported letters of Ignatius with any degree of confidence. May I repeat:

Quoting Ignatius is always problematic.