So, you are in favor of a government violently seizing a faith community's property, destroying it, and taking away their freedom of religion? Thanks for clarifying that.
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So, you are in favor of taking words and changing and twisting them to make them seem to say what you want so that the moderators will pull threads? Thanks for clarifying that.
Pepy’s Diary. No more sure chronicler of the times than he.
http://www.pepysdiary.com/p/796.php
“During 1648, Cromwell’s letters and speeches started to become heavily based on biblical imagery, many of them meditations on the meaning of particular passages. For example, after the battle of Preston, study of Psalms 17 and 105 led him to tell Parliament that “they that are implacable and will not leave troubling the land may be speedily destroyed out of the land”. A letter to Oliver St John in September 1648 urged him to read Isaiah 8, in which the kingdom falls and only the godly survive. This letter suggests that it was Cromwell’s faith, rather than a commitment to radical politics, coupled with Parliament’s decision to engage in negotiations with the king at the Treaty of Newport, that convinced him that God had spoken against both the king and Parliament as lawful authorities. For Cromwell, the army was now God’s chosen instrument.[26] The episode shows Cromwell’s firm belief in “Providentialism”—that God was actively directing the affairs of the world, through the actions of “chosen people” (whom God had “provided” for such purposes). Cromwell believed, during the Civil Wars, that he was one of these people, and he interpreted victories as indications of God’s approval of his actions, and defeats as signs that God was directing him in another direction.”
Bad thing to join military with religious fanaticism. Shades of Islamic method there.
The DVD is worth the money just to witness that one scene alone.
Look, when somebody Gnostically declares themselves in a selected elite, essentially a snooty community that believes that they are going to wind up in Heaven while everyone else is going to hell and there’s nothing that they can do about it, why not take others’ property?
If they are going to Heaven no matter what they do, then it doesn’t matter to them, WHAT they do. There’s no getting away from the fact that the Puritan descendents were a notoriously greedy bunch, using whatever power (usually governmental) to settle the score from their past, in which they had to leave England and were booted out of the normally liberal and accepting Netherlands.
The Scottish bankers, good Presbyterians all, squeezed every penny out of the folks here short of putting a gun to their heads. And then went into government to protect their money interests. Pierre Trudeau was a good example.
Let ‘em discuss the violence inherent in their system. I’d encourage it. They are a mean people, impoverished theologically, and, from what I’ve seen, suffer from that in their everyday lives.
Pyro:So, you are in favor of a government violently seizing a faith community's property, destroying it, and taking away their freedom of religion? Thanks for clarifying that.
Wait a minute! Didn't the RCC church perfect this?