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To: MarkBsnr
It becomes more and more fascinating. At what point did this blessed (for the Reformation) event happen?

I've traced it back to around 600AD when the Pope allowed both Augustine's and Cassian's theologies to coexist in the Church.

HD-Faith, then, as well in its beginning as in its completion, is God’s gift

MarkBsnr-Google is not my friend in trying to track this down. Would you please provide a website for me to go to?

I'm sure you can look up Romans 12 without a Google.

826 posted on 01/31/2008 5:31:29 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

lol.


831 posted on 01/31/2008 5:45:34 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: HarleyD; MarkBsnr
I've traced it back to around 600AD when the Pope allowed both Augustine's and Cassian's theologies to coexist in the Church

Did any Ecumenical Council find +John Cassian to be a heretic? Obviously, the Pope considered these theologies as theologoumenna and not dogma.

Both saints are venerated in the Orthodox and Catholic Churches.

835 posted on 01/31/2008 5:55:13 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: HarleyD

Romans 12:

For by the grace given to me I tell everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than one ought to think, but to think soberly, each according to the measure of faith that God has apportioned.

Okay. And this means what, from an anti Catholic stance?


848 posted on 01/31/2008 6:28:29 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: HarleyD
"...except that it is impossible to withstand the most manifest divine testimony, by which faith, whence piety takes its beginning, is shown also to be the gift of God: such as is that testimony that "God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith;"

Not a single jot nor tittle of that sentence is in any way inimical to Catholic faith.

864 posted on 01/31/2008 7:07:33 PM PST by Campion
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