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To: r9etb
I was an unbeliever, and the Holy Spirit spoke to me -- before I believed in Jesus Christ.

I understand what you are saying and agree that the Holy Spirit does speak to our spirit about salvation while we are unbelievers. However, speaking to us about our lost condition and the gift of salvation is different from living in us and being sealed by the Holy Spirit.

Rev. 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

That's why the Gospel of Jesus must be preached so that the unbelievers can hear the Spirit of God knock on their hearts door.

Romans 10:13-15 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

697 posted on 01/31/2008 10:28:26 AM PST by ScubieNuc (There is only ONE mediator between man and God....Jesus. 1 Timothy 2:5)
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To: ScubieNuc

I knew you were gonna try to explain it all away. No dice.


699 posted on 01/31/2008 10:29:21 AM PST by r9etb
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To: ScubieNuc

Er - “Rev. 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

“That’s why the Gospel of Jesus must be preached so that the unbelievers can hear the Spirit of God knock on their hearts door.”

Rev 3:20 is not an evangelical Scripture. The Lord is standing at the door of a church (the church of the Laodiceans), to see if anyone alive in Him is there. The context:

“15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.”


702 posted on 01/31/2008 10:38:16 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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