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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr; ...
Your complaint is with God. I didn't write the OT, I just believe in it

I don't have a complaint with God. I have a complaint with people who claim God wrote the Bible and can't prove it. The so-called Bible-belivers do this so they can accuse others of being against God, and to place themselves in a self-rightous seat to judge, without having to prove anything.

If you can't prove it, then you can't use it as an argument, FK! Do you understand that? I am sure you do, but then everything you claim turns into dust.

If you believe it, that's fine with me. Either state it as your belief (i.e. "I believe God wrote the Bible" rather than "God wrote the Bible") or keep it to yourself.

Don't spout your personal beliefs as some universal truth. I have no problems with people's beliefs as long as they understand that their beliefs are not the universal truth, but just their personal beliefs for whatever they are worth.

You always have a spare word for the Church hierarchy claiming extraordinary things, and you yourself are doing the same thing. Good job, FK!

God ordered such specific missions of specific people at specific times

Prove it.

But just remember that the cruelty that you see in the Bible is directly from your own God, as HIS WORD says and stands by

Prove it.

I have seen articles that have analyzed the Koran and it appears to me that the fundamentalists have a case

That's your opinion.

You yourself have said that Jesus quoted from the Septuagint, which related this cruelty that disturbs you

Jesus quoted parts of the OT, those parts that related to His ministry. And as we have seen from enat's sad example, sometimes the authors would make things up and attribute it to Jesus!

In fact, He stood squarely behind all of these stories as matters of fact.

Those verses that He or the authors of the NT chose to attribute to Him, yes. His whole teaching, taken collectively, is not what the OT taught.

The difference in the passages you quote is that in those from the Bible they refer to God's actions or specific orders to specific people, whereas, in the one quote from the Koran, it appeared to give a general command to all people as they see fit. That's a huge difference

LOL! I am not even going to entertain this statement, FK. I have told you, there are pages and pages of God-ordered cruelty in the OT. Directly attributed to Him. Don't be a "lawyer." :)

There is no Christ that YOU believe in, in any of these. Your personal views of the Bible necessarily color your perception of who Christ IS

Maybe one day you will come down from that cloud in the sky and realize that you are just like me. :)

6,779 posted on 07/31/2008 6:40:00 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
"I have a complaint with people who claim God wrote the Bible and can't prove it."

It is revealed to those who rest in faith through Christ. Accordingly there is no need to prove it, for it is given freely to those who believe.

6,781 posted on 07/31/2008 8:47:53 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr; HarleyD; ...
I have a complaint with people who claim God wrote the Bible and can't prove it. ...... If you can't prove it, then you can't use it as an argument, FK! Do you understand that? I am sure you do, but then everything you claim turns into dust.

LOL! You have been showed the scriptures and you have rejected them. That is up to you and there is nothing more I can do. :)

Don't spout your personal beliefs as some universal truth. I have no problems with people's beliefs as long as they understand that their beliefs are not the universal truth, but just their personal beliefs for whatever they are worth.

The Bible IS universal truth, so Bible-believers "spout" that truth. :)

FK: God ordered such specific missions of specific people at specific times ...

Prove it.

My proof is the plain text of Holy Scriptures. You reject Scriptures as proof. That leaves us at an impasse on the subject of proof. :) I have the strongest proof in the world available to me. How can I not use it?

Maybe one day you will come down from that cloud in the sky and realize that you are just like me. :)

Well, before God I pray that we are VERY much alike. :)

6,811 posted on 08/02/2008 1:41:22 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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