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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr; ...
Kosta: There is no sola scriptura in the Scriptures!

FK: But it's not your job to know that. The best you should be able to do is to tell me that your clergy do not believe in the Biblical teaching of Sola Scriptura.

No it's not my job, but I happen to know. :)  And the clergy certainly know that too. In fact, it was the clergy that called my attention to the nonexistence of "sola scriptura" in the Scriptures.

One CANNOT love God without knowing something of His word

One more dogmatic truism that has no basis in reality.

While one CAN certainly come to true faith without having read a word for himself, especially if it is unavailable to him, the danger is in whether the human teacher actually has it right

And there is no danger in private interpretation of the Scriptures?

If one DOES have the scriptures available he would be irresponsible for not reading them for himself. This is exactly what Paul was talking about with the Bereans.

Again, Paul was speaking in a synagogue and the rabbis (elders) checked the scrolls against his words. And some were not convinced!

He was PROUD of them for not taking his word for it on anything.

No, he was simply reporting that they didn't take his word for it.

They searched the scriptures themselves.

 Of course, who also was there to search  it for the rabbis! Little context please...

Paul implied with his praise that it was the responsible thing to do

You mean, he though it was their job? I agree, that's what the rabbis are for. People don't go behind the curtain and  pull out the sacred Torah scrolls every time they want to check something. Even those who read it can only touch it with a pointer (picture)

  

You think there was your average Berean man (and certainly not women) who "checked" to see if Paul was right? That's about as credible as pink unicorns on Jupiter. That betrays complete lack of knowledge of historical context and cultural and religious practises of the Jews.


6,593 posted on 07/21/2008 11:28:54 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights; Cvengr; HarleyD; ...
FK: One CANNOT love God without knowing something of His word.

One more dogmatic truism that has no basis in reality.

Then you believe in loving blindly, without knowing anything of the object of your love. Now, there are numerous, faceless terrorists all over the world who want to kill you. They are your enemies. The Bible says you should love them and you should. Therefore, shouldn't I assume that the relationship with these faceless terrorists that you have is the same as you think proper for us to have with our Lord? That is, with no knowledge and no words, only blind love?

FK: While one CAN certainly come to true faith without having read a word for himself, especially if it is unavailable to him, the danger is in whether the human teacher actually has it right.

And there is no danger in private interpretation of the Scriptures?

Well, here you need to define "private interpretation". Most Apostolics think it means "anything inconsistent with the Apostolic Church". I reject that definition. I think private interpretation is anything inconsistent with the totality of scriptures, so I would consider many Apostolic beliefs to be private interpretations. So, what I said somewhat agrees with you. If one turns his back on learning the scriptures himself, then there will be a danger of being led astray by a false teacher, from any faith. But of course, if one turns his back on learning the scriptures himself, then it might not make any difference. :)

6,628 posted on 07/23/2008 2:22:38 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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