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To: stfassisi; kosta50; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights
FK-””Besides, I got my Bible canon from God, since it was His revelation to us, not the revelation of men ABOUT God.””

You have your “own” revelation about God and it does not line up with the martyrs and the saints, whom without them you would not even have Bible canon.

You describe the revelation of men. I follow the revelation of God. If the Bible is God's word, then God should be thanked. If we are to thank men, then the Bible is not God's word.

Before and after the Bible they believed the Eucharist was truly Christ present.

By "they" I assume you mean your men, who represented a part of God's Church. That is irrelevant to me, however, since I do not thank any man for the Bible or its assembly. I give the glory to God. Those men could have had many errant beliefs, but that does not affect what God Himself did.

The Eucharist is greater than the scriptures because Christ is fully present in bodily form under the presence of humble bread and wine.

That is a very interesting admission. Jesus said:

Matt 4:4 : Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"

So, for you to say that a physical ritual tops God's own word I find astounding. You are, in effect, almost reversing what Jesus said. Let's not forget that the Bible says that God spoke the universe into existence. How do we top that? :) If we put down the word of God, then we put down God Himself. The power of God's word is greater than any physical ritual.

6,573 posted on 07/20/2008 11:17:39 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights
FK-””The power of God's word is greater than any physical ritual.””

You believe the power of “your own” interpretation of God's word is greater than Christ Himself fully present in the Eucharist.

The Eucharist is the same Christ full present in Bodily form who was born Mary,who performed miracles and who is the second person of the Holy Trinity.

Your Bible is not the original scriptures and has been translated incorrectly in many cases to suit a protestant interpretation.

Any interpretation of the Bible you try and use to attack the Sacraments goes against consistent historical teachings for over 2000 years from the Martyr's and the Saints without whom there would not have been a canon of the Bible.

You have your Bible with no unity and no historical interpretations of scriptures.

In fact,Dear brother, the protestant reformation broke unity with each other almost immediately after it began which PROVES that it was not of God.Personal interpretation of scripture is the main reason for disunity amongst Christians. That itself ought to tell you that solo Scripture is bogus

If Christianity was supposed to be solo Scripture than you need to ask yourself why the reformed God was not powerful enough to preserve the originals.

I love scriptures as well.fk,but I also love and trust the Saints and the Church because they gave witness to them and everything they did centered around Our Eucharistic Lord present in the most Holy Sacrament of love.

6,575 posted on 07/20/2008 12:15:04 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg
That is a very interesting admission. Jesus said:

Matt 4:4 : Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"

The Eucharist is not bread,fk, It is changed into Christ,so as usual you use the Bible for your own purpose.

In doing so you elevate your own belief above the Saints whom God worked miracle's through in the same manor as the devil who tries to steal the throne of God by attacking the consistent belief of the most humble loving people of God throughout Christian history.

What good is the Bible if you don't interpret it correctly and love is not the final outcome?

Your interpretations make a mockery out of the Early Christians.

Wake Up,Dear Brother!

6,578 posted on 07/20/2008 3:15:34 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights
You describe the revelation of men. I follow the revelation of God

More dogmatic statements will not make it a fact, FK.

I give the glory to God. Those men could have had many errant beliefs, but that does not affect what God Himself did.

And you somehow know with some "inner knowledge" what God did as if the Bible is not full of errors!?! Just because you believe something doesn't make it true, FK.

6,600 posted on 07/21/2008 8:58:33 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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