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To: Forest Keeper

In order to even get onto the Way, we must receive the Spirit. What happens after that? Let’s look at the words of Jesus:

Matt 25:

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14 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne,
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and all the nations 15 will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
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He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
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Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
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For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,
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naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’
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Then the righteous 16 will answer him and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
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When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?
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When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’
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And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’
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17 Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
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For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
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a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’
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18 Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’
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He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’
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And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”


6,506 posted on 07/15/2008 3:19:11 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Forest Keeper
In order to even get onto the Way, we must receive the Spirit. What happens after that? Let’s look at the words of Jesus: Matt 25:

May God bless you Mark. It is clear, as it is in the Beatitudes and everything esle Jesus says in the Gospels, that what we do matters to God even though He died for all our sins.

Jesus preached works-based salvation. The NT preaches works-based salvation. It states in no uncertain terms that we will be judged for our deeds. And Matthew 25 tells us what that Judgment will be.

But the Reformed will tell you that Paul says otherwise. Does Paul trump Christ?

6,507 posted on 07/15/2008 4:47:05 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights
FK: I take it then, that you believe your eternal reward will BE deserved based on your free will actions?

In order to even get onto the Way, we must receive the Spirit. What happens after that? Let’s look at the words of Jesus: [Matt. 25:31-46]

OK, if this passage is your answer to my question then I can only conclude that indeed you do think you will be deserving of Heaven if you have done enough good works by the time of Judgment. One is deserving of something if he has earned it. You do enough good works and then God owes you. It's like a contract.

6,526 posted on 07/16/2008 3:08:29 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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