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To: kosta50

***To “understand” involves grasping of the meaning, comprehension.

To “learn” involves acquiring a skill. Thus, learning and understanding ( comprehending) is not mutually exclusive or necessarily mutually interdependent, as is the case with need and want.***

I doubt that it is a significant step from frogmarching the uncomprehending to, well, the reduction of the human to the animal. Regardless of the mechanism, it still involves the elimination of the understanding and the free will of understanding and agreeing to the process or goal.

Either mankind willingly chooses the love of God and eternal life or else he does not. Scripture consistently describes the path of salvation for the willing - it involves choice and action from choice. It does not address those in the armchair who get plucked via an uncomprehensible fashion for unknown reasons to an undeserved eternal reward.


6,492 posted on 07/14/2008 7:04:42 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Either mankind willingly chooses the love of God and eternal life or else he does not. Scripture consistently describes the path of salvation for the willing - it involves choice and action from choice

God gave us reason for a reason. If He didn't want us to choose, why would He give us choices? Nowehere does the Bible speak of God attaching divine tractor beams to our foreheads and leading us around against our will.

6,493 posted on 07/14/2008 7:50:43 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights
Either mankind willingly chooses the love of God and eternal life or else he does not. Scripture consistently describes the path of salvation for the willing - it involves choice and action from choice. It does not address those in the armchair who get plucked via an incomprehensible fashion for unknown reasons to an undeserved eternal reward.

I take it then, that you believe your eternal reward will BE deserved based on your free will actions?

6,505 posted on 07/15/2008 9:04:47 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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