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To: MarkBsnr; kosta50; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; wmfights
FK: ***Then when did the hierarchy of the Apostolic Church become uncorrupted and perfect in teaching, as it supposedly is today? How did that happen?***

When and where did any of us claim that the Church hierarchy is uncorrupted. Bernard Law comes to mind.

I was talking about the group, as I think Kosta was, not the individual. As I understand it, your group as a whole teaches infallibly according to itself (Latin, not Orthodox). Kosta said, in essence, IMO, that at the very beginning "the group" was not really all that together on correct doctrine, beliefs, etc. I was asking when and how did that change.

6,466 posted on 07/11/2008 6:19:01 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper

***I was talking about the group, as I think Kosta was, not the individual. As I understand it, your group as a whole teaches infallibly according to itself (Latin, not Orthodox). Kosta said, in essence, IMO, that at the very beginning “the group” was not really all that together on correct doctrine, beliefs, etc. I was asking when and how did that change.***

The Church agreed on a consensus; sometimes it took a while to achieve, yet the Church teaches infallibly utilizing fallible men. Of course there were differences at the beginning; as our understanding of Christianity developed, the great differences were labelled as heresy and the minor differences were settled over time.


6,471 posted on 07/11/2008 9:59:32 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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