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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
I merely said that according to him your interpretations were not required, and that since they were not required I wondered why you would choose the single interpretation MOST offensive to the integrity of the Bible itself

Strong's definitions clash with several other sources. It's not one source.

From our point of view He is certainly multifaceted and complex

Oh boy! A "compound" God!

how do YOU answer the question "Did God want Jesus to die on the cross?" Yes or no.

The question is wrong. Christ died because He (Christ) willed it. Either He is fully God, or He is a lesser God or not even God.

Well, of course God's infiniteness is difficult for us to comprehend.

Just "difficult?"

The distinction I am drawing is between a static God who is just "frozen" since everything everywhere and everywhen is already done for Him, and a LIVING God who is active and doing things within time.

And what is He going to "do" after the End of Times?

God created us knowing that it would turn out to be a "package" deal, the good with the bad

Here we go again with "God is the source of good and evil."

The open theist would have us believe that God was grieved because He was surprised or didn't know the depths of sin to which the world would fall. But surely, even in Open Theism, God knew that people would sin. So, this verse can't be claimed to demonstrate that God didn't know the future choices of people.

Please, FK, this is childish imo. According to the Reformed "theology" God is the author of what happened, in which case there is no reason whatsoever for Him to grieve.

6,293 posted on 06/24/2008 6:25:50 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; stfassisi; irishtenor; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
Oh boy! A "compound" God!

I don't know what you mean by a "compound" God. We believe in the God revealed to us in the scriptures, which includes the OT. You appear to reject that revelation.

FK: ... how do YOU answer the question "Did God want Jesus to die on the cross?" Yes or no.

The question is wrong. Christ died because He (Christ) willed it. Either He is fully God, or He is a lesser God or not even God.

I suppose I'll take that as a "yes". But doesn't that ruin the Orthodox view that God has nothing to do with death? You just told me that God willed death. The OT says the same thing.

And what is He going to "do" after the End of Times?

Other than reign in Heaven and be our loving Father, the Bible doesn't tell us.

According to the Reformed "theology" God is the author of what happened, in which case there is no reason whatsoever for Him to grieve.

So, are you saying it is impossible to be the author of something and when the expected results happen one has reason to grieve? I remember that a few years ago there was a lone rock climber who got his arm wedged between a boulder and a wall. Knowing he was going to die because he was in a remote location, he wound up sawing off his own arm to free himself. He was the author of an expected result. You are telling me here that he had no reason to grieve the loss of his arm.

6,332 posted on 06/28/2008 5:47:24 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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