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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr
Peter was a sheep who wandered away and got lost. What did God do? He went out and found [sic] him and brought him back. Just like He promised He would. Works every time, unto this day

Not really. Judas wondered off and was bought for 30 pieces and was never "found" and brought back. Of course, you will tell me that Judas was just the unlucky "choice" of a mean and cruel God.

6,141 posted on 06/04/2008 8:44:32 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr
FK: "Peter was a sheep who wandered away and got lost. What did God do? He went out and found him and brought him back. Just like He promised He would. Works every time, unto this day."

Not really. Judas wondered off and was bought for 30 pieces and was never "found" and brought back. Of course, you will tell me that Judas was just the unlucky "choice" of a mean and cruel God.

When it comes to God, I never think luck has anything to do with it. I don't know what God's reasons are, but He has them because He is not a random God. The answer to this is that Judas was never a sheep. He was a pretender. We have reasonable evidence that he did not persevere to/in the end, which means he was never a believer, and that God did not fail him. The argument has been made around here (I don't remember by whom) that none of the Apostles were true believers until Pentecost. While I'm not sure of that, if it is true, then Judas is certainly left out.

6,164 posted on 06/05/2008 1:45:24 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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