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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
A seal was broken by Adam and Eve, and every human being ever since.

What seal was that, and where is it in scripture? God did not seal them against sin.

How do you know that God wants you to witness? The Great Commission was given to the eleven. And no one else.

Scripture is clear. Do you suppose that God gives us a whole big list of good things He wants us to do, but preaching HIS WORD is not on that list? Come on. I continue to love the irony of Apostolics saying on the one have that God loves all people and wants all people to be saved, yet in the same breath preaching that Christianity is an EXCLUSIVE faith that should only be shared by the tiniest minority of elites in the faith. That's hilarious. :)

5,808 posted on 05/24/2008 6:42:42 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
What seal was that, and where is it in scripture? God did not seal them [Adam and Eve] against sin.

The seal doens't prevent anhyone from sinning. The baptized still sin! As far as Adam and Eve are concerned, they were under Grace. When we are baptized, we are restored to grace and, just as Adam and Eve could fall away, so can we.

Scripture is clear. Do you suppose that God gives us a whole big list of good things He wants us to do, but preaching HIS WORD is not on that list?

Yes it is. There were eleven and He spoke only to them. It applies to their successors, by their choice.

Good Dr. E brought up two verses (John 14:26, 2:27) which couldn't be clearer that preaching and teaching is not necessary for the believers. The HS does all the work of teaching and preaching.

Yes, Christ did give us a list of things to follow and do, in Beatitudes for example, and Matthew 5 is full of them. He even told us how we should pray, how we should treat our enemies, never return evil for evil, etc. In fact, the Beatitudes tell us what is required to get into heaven and there is not a trace of any faith mentioned in them! (Paul didn't invent that yet)

Yeah, we should be like Christ in our hearts, pure, and we shall see God. Is your heart pure?

I continue to love the irony of Apostolics saying on the one have that God loves all people and wants all people to be saved, yet in the same breath preaching that Christianity is an EXCLUSIVE faith that should only be shared by the tiniest minority of elites in the faith

You do not even see that you are ridiculing the Reformed cult with these words. Nothing could be a bigger irony than to preach that God predestined everyone and nothing can be done to change that and yet to preach the Bible to everyone, falsely giving hope to those preordained to hell.

And speaking of minority elites, what are the "elect" if not the minority elite who get a limo ride to heaven just because. Talk about exclusive faith!

5,810 posted on 05/24/2008 7:56:41 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper
I continue to love the irony of Apostolics saying on the one have that God loves all people and wants all people to be saved, yet in the same breath preaching that Christianity is an EXCLUSIVE faith that should only be shared by the tiniest minority of elites in the faith. That's hilarious. :)

lol. More double-speak.

5,816 posted on 05/25/2008 12:47:07 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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