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To: stfassisi; kosta50; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Mad Dawg; Kolokotronis; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
God does not need the nudie bar,the mugger or the person going to the nudie bar to accomplish goodness,Dear Brother.

I never said God "needed" anything. It was a totally made up and silly example to show that God can use ANYTHING that He has allowed in this world to accomplish His goodness.

There would not be a mugging in the first place if there was no nudie bar. That would be God's will!

Is God powerful enough to get rid of it if that's what He wanted? Why would you say He doesn't? That is, you just told me that man overrides God's will, since there ARE nudie bars (as I'm told). Is that God's choice under the way you see things?

5,805 posted on 05/24/2008 5:09:54 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Mad Dawg; Kolokotronis
FK-””Is God powerful enough to get rid of it if that's what He wanted? Why would you say He doesn't? That is, you just told me that man overrides God's will, since there ARE nudie bars (as I'm told).””

Are you actually saying that nudie bars are the will of God,FK? Dear Lord!

God does not Will evil to accomplish a good FK! It seems to me that you're confusing what God ALLOWS must somehow be attached to God's Will.

If God willed evil, than He would be the cause of the fall of lucifer

FK-””God can use ANYTHING that He has allowed in this world to accomplish His goodness.””

Of course,but the key word is “ALLOWED”

5,819 posted on 05/25/2008 1:22:06 PM PDT by stfassisi ( ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
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