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The claim was that God would not let His elect sin SUCH THAT salvation would be lost. The claim is that we can reasonably infer this from scripture, as I have posted. No one says that the elect stop sinning after they are saved

You then must also believe that God would not let His reporbates do enough good in this world in order to lose their perdition!

That's because you believe things such as Prov 16:4. Septuaging doesn't have that vers (or 1, 3, or 6). We don't have the same scriptures and we don't believe the same thing.

I think Jesus knew what would happen a scant few weeks later. The command was to all of them, as well as all of us.

The Bible is clear about the eleven. You don't like what it says, so you say it's nto true.

you say that God wants all to be saved

I don't; the NT does, but you don't like that so you "give" it to me.

Many more would be reached and saved if the attitude was that Jesus was speaking to the laity as well.

Conjecture. The Bible is clear that he was addresisng the eleven.

Bible-believing Christians believe that the Great Commission applies to everyone with true faith

That's fine with me, but it's not what the Bible says.

Then either God erred or God needed Paul's help

The disciples didn't fully grasp Chris's role until afer He left.

I mean, if the Church had folded, would God have said "Oh well"?

Jesus specifically told the disciples not to go to Samaria and where Gentiles live. He also stated that He was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel, and in Math 18:17 He make sit clear that the Gentles are not the same as the Jews.

You then must also believe that God would not let His reprobates do enough good in this world in order to lose their perdition!

The only way God stops the reprobate is by declining to give them an undeserved gift that He promises to no one. It's a matter of choice whether one wants to consider that "preventing" or not, or whether God "owes" this gift to everyone. I perceive that Apostolics see some sort of debt owed by God to man, since you all blame God for sin if God is in control, or if man is not as "free" as you would like him to be.

That's because you believe things such as Prov 16:4. Septuagint doesn't have that verse (or 1, 3, or 6). We don't have the same scriptures and we don't believe the same thing.

I suppose that is all true. I certainly believe in scriptures like Prov. 16:4. Does the NAB really omit all of those verses? I've never heard that before.

The Bible is clear about the eleven. You don't like what it says, so you say it's not true.

Jesus certainly DID say it to the eleven, but it is a "strangulatingly" forced interpretation to say that it was meant for them ONLY, AND ONLY their successors. That message isn't there at all. That message is only to consolidate power within the elites, which is what is done. The far more reasonable interpretation would be that God wanted His message to be heard by the masses. Jesus demonstrated this in His ministry. So it makes much more sense that Jesus meant for disciples to make other disciples, who in turn would make other disciples. But your system prohibits this. If you all are not clergy, I don't know how you even get away with posting to us at all on FR. :)

FK: "... you say that God wants all to be saved."

I don't; the NT does, but you don't like that so you "give" it to me.

In that case I take it back with full apologies. :) I'm pretty sure that is the official position of the Latin Church, and was not sure about the Orthodox Church.

FK: "Many more would be reached and saved if the attitude was that Jesus was speaking to the laity as well."

Conjecture.

BALONEY! :) It's simple mathematics. That is, unless you suppose that God treads over top of the sinning Christians who DO share their faiths and cancels their testimonies out. I don't think you would tell me that.

The disciples didn't fully grasp Christ's role until after He left.

I have no problem with that at all, but what I do have a problem with is any idea, as it appears you are suggesting, that Jesus ACTIVELY AFFIRMED any false notions or beliefs by those closest to Him, while He was here. That has Jesus going out of His way to steer them down the wrong path.

Jesus specifically told the disciples not to go to Samaria and where Gentiles live. He also stated that He was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel, and in Math 18:17 He makes it clear that the Gentles are not the same as the Jews.

By BIRTH, they aren't the same as the Jews. If Jesus was sent only to Jews by birth, then God made an obvious mistake. I cannot share that view. We believe the Reformed God does not make mistakes. Are you telling me that the Apostolic God does?