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To: kosta50; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Mad Dawg; Kolokotronis; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
STF: "Christians throughout history have always regarded sin not only as a transgression of divine law but also—though not always in a direct and evident way—as contempt for or disregard of the friendship between God and man."

Kosta: "Indeed. In the Orthodox tradition, the confession begins with "I confess to God, before you, venerable father (priest, as our witness), that I have sinned out of ingratitude to God...

WHAT?! :) Kosta, you argued to me strenuously on this thread that Jesus had no friendship at all with His disciples, and there was no personal family-type relationship among them. You believe in an unknowable and impersonal God per your posts. That really seems to undercut the point you are trying to support.

5,669 posted on 05/19/2008 6:07:26 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; stfassisi; MarkBsnr; irishtenor; Mad Dawg; Kolokotronis; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
WHAT?! :) Kosta, you argued to me strenuously on this thread that Jesus had no friendship at all with His disciples, and there was no personal family-type relationship among them. You believe in an unknowable and impersonal God per your posts. That really seems to undercut the point you are trying to support

Why? Because we consider sin ingratitude to God? Are you stressed out, because lately your posts make very little sense to me.

Does one have to have a family-type relationship in order to know what ingratitude is? What if you lost your wallet with $1,000 in it and all credit cards and your family pictures, and some perfect stranger took the time to bring it to your home and all you did was take the wallet and slam the door in his face?!

You believe in an unknowable and impersonal God per your posts.

Again, I hope whatever is burdening you comes to pass because that is just plain silly, FK. Christ, in His humanity, is knowable and personal (but He is not your buddy!) and we would never say He anything other than that. But, God is unoknable to us in His essence.

5,672 posted on 05/19/2008 6:30:06 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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