“Huh? The Holy Spirit, the Giver of Life?”
I thought Jesus was the “Life”?
Obedience, obedience, that’s the ticket. God told us to pray this was, “Our Father....” and do so in Jesus name with the aid of the Holy Spirit who helps our infirmities.
bd:"I thought Jesus was the Life?"
Interesting. Of course the Creed says:
"Καὶ εἰς τὸ Πνεῦμα τὸ Ἅγιον, τὸ κύριον, τὸ ζωοποιόν,..."
"And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life...."
Earlier, the Creed also says of Christ:
"τὸν δι' ἡμᾶς τοὺς ἀνθρώπους καὶ διὰ τὴν ἡμετέραν σωτηρίαν κατελθόντα ἐκ τῶν οὐρανῶν καὶ σαρκωθέντα ἐκ πνεύματος ἁγίου καὶ Μαρίας τῆς παρθένου καὶ ἐνανθρωπήσαντα,..."
"who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, and was made man"
So the HS is the divine "source" of the incarnate Christ as well as the Lord, the Giver of Life" for everything and everyone else.
Kolo is correct is citing the Creed. Christ came to us through the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary. Jesus is Life. The Holy Spirit is the Giver of Life.
Obedience, obedience, thats the ticket. God told us to pray this was, Our Father.... and do so in Jesus name with the aid of the Holy Spirit who helps our infirmities
Then how are they all the same God? If the Father is the only one to be prayed to, where does that leave Jesus and the Holy Spirit? God's "helpers?"
If God is Trinity, then is it not proper to pray in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit? And when we say God, do we not mean all Three Hypostases, and not just the Father?
From the way you write, it sounds like we are only to pray the Lord's Prayer and in the name of Jesus Christ, with the aid [sic] of the Holy Spirit.
As I wrote earlier, I have a feeling that our Trinitarian theologies are fundamentally different, and that Reformed are believe in a tiered and subordianed Trinity. After all, aren't the LDS also "tirnitarian" in name only?
Please tell me if the Son and the Holy Spirit are said to be co-equal with the Father in the Reformed theology.