No, I never claimed that the converse was true. Truth is truth irrespective of how many people get it. So, your above is not my argument.
Isa 52:13-53:12 : 13 See, my servant will act wisely...
Who is Isaiah's servant in context?
Jesus is the Lord's servant. The whole passage is about the suffering servant. By extension, Jesus is the servant of all believers. He did not come here for Him, He came here for us.
[Is. 52:15] For what they were not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will understand
Seems to me Isaiah's is saying that one doesn't [need] eyes and ears in order to understand.
This isn't talking about becoming a believer, it is about recognizing what is obvious to the world. In the OT many lost people recognized the existence of the Jewish God, but did not believe on Him.
So, the Church is wrong but individual readers, who read gospels "faithfully," get it right? What evidence do you have for such a silly claim?
As always, I have God-breathed scriptures as my evidence. I realize not everyone accepts that evidence as true. A personal Holy Spirit has a personal relationship with personal believers.
To which I replied: But we can measure the truth by how many people claim they get something? Every sect and cult can (and does) use your argument, fallaciously I might add
To which you respond: No, I never claimed that the converse was true. Truth is truth irrespective of how many people get it. So, your above is not my argument
If the first is true, then the second is true also. The truth is truth irrespective of how many people (claim to) get it or don't get it, FK.
If the Muslims find Mohammad in Isaiah doesn't mean it's there. If Jews and Christians don't get it doesn't make them wrong either.
Kosta: Who is Isaiah's servant in context?
FK: Jesus is the Lord's servant
Some believe Israel (the people of God) are the servant. They believe the passage in Isaiah is about Israel, not one person.
In the OT many lost people recognized the existence of the Jewish God, but did not believe on Him
I said "understand," not "believe."
Kosta: So, the Church is wrong but individual readers, who read gospels "faithfully," get it right? What evidence do you have for such a silly claim?
As always, I have God-breathed scriptures as my evidence. I realize not everyone accepts that evidence as true. A personal Holy Spirit has a personal relationship with personal believers.
You have evidence that the Church is "wrong?" Whatever it is that you claim is evidence doesn't explain why is the Church subject to error and the individual reader is immune to it!