So, then you are telling me that you are conforming the Bible to your (a priori) belief? Talk about stuffing God into a box!
God's inspired Scripture authenticates that particular prophecy to be true, but it does not authenticate the whole work
As a matter of principle, as you suggetsing now that God revealed His prophesies to someone who is not a prophet of God?!?
What constitutes "scriptures," FK? What the Church says? What Luther says? What SBC says? Scripture is many things to many people with only the pre-existing individual or communal faith as the "authenticating" authority of what constitutes scripture.
There is no rule that says a prophecy MUST first appear in scripture to be true (the Orthodox Church's view of what scripture IS notwithstanding)
How consistent is it to believe that God would be revealing prophesies to anyone except those He considered His prophets? If the author of the Book of Enoch was revealed a prophesy from God, then he is God's prophet and, if you believe the prophesy, then it is scripture, FK!
The scriputre rule is very simple: if the Bible expresses what the Church believes, then it is scripture. In other words, the biblical canon are those books that reflect the faith, not the other way around, FK! That's how the Church decides. First comes the faith, then the Bible, based on faith. The Bible does not give you faith; the faith gives the Bible.
This is what I have been harping about for the longest time now: the Bible is a mixture of popular beliefs (myths, legends, narratives) and prophesies believed to be true.
But, as far as quoting the prophesy from the Book of Enoch in Jude is concerned, if prophesies are true in the absolute sense they could be true only if God revealed them, and if He revealed them to someone, that makes that person a prophet of God and His Apostle, whether we believe it or not.
No, I'm just telling you that if God is perfect and without error, THEN, neither does His word contain error. How do you reconcile a perfect God inspiring an error-filled word? Your only answer can be that God had little or nothing to do with the Bible, which is the conclusion your arguments lead to. I cannot accept that.
As a matter of principle, as you suggesting now that God revealed His prophesies to someone who is not a prophet of God?!?
No, I don't know what you are referring to. The Bible says Enoch was a prophet.
What constitutes "scriptures," FK? What the Church says? What Luther says? What SBC says?
The original 66 books that God led men to canonize.
How consistent is it to believe that God would be revealing prophesies to anyone except those He considered His prophets? If the author of the Book of Enoch was revealed a prophesy from God, then he is God's prophet and, if you believe the prophesy, then it is scripture, FK!
Scripture is the word God wanted us to have. It does not describe everything God has ever said or done. There are millions of prophecies out there. I believe the ones that are in the Bible BECAUSE they're in the Bible. It is irrelevant if any other prophecies come true or not.
The scripture rule is very simple: if the Bible expresses what the Church believes, then it is scripture. In other words, the biblical canon are those books that reflect the faith, not the other way around, FK! That's how the Church decides.
That is a good summation of Apostolic thought. The Church determines the faith, and then fills in all the holes with what the men of the Church want. The Bible is shaped and formed and interpreted to match what the men want, regardless of the actual words in the books. The will of men trumps the will of God. Man shapes God to match what man wants. It's classic Apostolicism.
First comes the faith, then the Bible, based on faith. The Bible does not give you faith; the faith gives the Bible.
God gives the faith, and God gave us the Bible. Without the Bible as an anchor, then faith quickly mutates into whatever men want to make of it.
This is what I have been harping about for the longest time now: the Bible is a mixture of popular beliefs (myths, legends, narratives) and prophesies believed to be true.
If you do not KNOW that they are true then you have no anchor. By using words like "myths" and "legends" it is evident that the Bible is no anchor for you.