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To: Forest Keeper; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; jo kus; kosta50; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; ...

We are saved by Grace. True Catholic statement.

We are saved through faith. True Catholic statement.

Grace is not of our works but a gift of God. True Catholic statement.

We should walk in good works. True Catholic statement.

We are saved through faith alone. Conterscriptural heresy.

What part of Eph 2:8-9 did I skip, and why did you skip Eph 2:10?


5,389 posted on 05/07/2008 10:22:50 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
We are saved through faith. True Catholic statement. Grace is not of our works but a gift of God. True Catholic statement.We should walk in good works. True Catholic statement.We are saved through faith alone. Conterscriptural heresy.

AH, just thought I'd pop in. I see the same old ground is being fought over, ad nauseum. Nothing new under the sun, right?

Regards

5,397 posted on 05/07/2008 4:50:05 PM PDT by jo kus (You can't lose your faith? What about Luke 8:13...? God says you can...)
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... We should walk in good works. True Catholic statement. We are saved through faith alone. Conterscriptural heresy. What part of Eph 2:8-9 did I skip, and why did you skip Eph 2:10?

I think you skipped the part containing the text. :) First, there is a plain statement on how we are saved. That is followed by a qualifier just to make sure no one misunderstands how we are saved. (So much for that idea! :) Finally, works are put into the correct context, that is, God created us in part for them, but they have nothing to do with salvation per the sentences just before. You do not seem to be able to reconcile the plain and obvious meaning of "not by works".

Eph. 2:10 says "FOR" we "are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." You seem to think this is a controlling and contradictory substitution for the erroneous verse 8. I see it as an addition to verse 8, not contradicting what was earlier said. Verse 8 already said what saves us.

5,410 posted on 05/08/2008 9:31:47 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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