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To: Forest Keeper; Mad Dawg; MarkBsnr; jo kus; kosta50; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; ...
It does not do so, per the passage, through works. Rather, it does so through faith ......... alone.

The scripture doesn't say that. It says that grace doesn't come from works of man, but then it says that grace produces both faith and works.

I try to follow the law we are talking about because I want to please God.

Yes, and this motivation: your love of God, -- is what makes your works salvific for you.

5,351 posted on 05/05/2008 12:45:56 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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FK: "It does not do so, per the passage, through works. Rather, it does so through faith ......... alone."

The scripture doesn't say that. It says that grace doesn't come from works of man, but then it says that grace produces both faith and works.

Once again:

Eph 2:8-9 : 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith — and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

I don't see how you can miss the plain statement the verse makes: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith". Then, just to be even more clear, it specifies that this is NOT by works, i.e., it is not by works you have been saved. Your statement skips this part.

5,388 posted on 05/07/2008 9:54:45 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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