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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; Mad Dawg; stfassisi
Then you must believe that Christ's resurrection is also an assumption, along with everything else in the Bible

No, Christ's resurrection is a matter of  faith. My statement you responded to was that monotheism is an assumption, just as polytheism is.

In that case it must be in large part luck if any particular person will become a Christian. It would depend on random variables such as where and when a person was born. I mean, by this thinking what chance would you have had becoming a Christian if you had been born in China? Probably almost none, right? Is that how a loving God works, or doesn't work?

Funny coming form a Reformed Christian who thinks nothing of the OT God committing genocide that you should ask me is "that how a loving God works!" :)  Indeed, priceless.

Yes, where and when you are born has a lot to do with your chances of becoming Christian. Christ left it to His disciples to teach and baptize all nations...so to a large extent it is a task given to the Church.

Perhaps if all the Evangelicals stopped trying to evangelize Christians in Russia and Latin America and instead risked their lives for faith in areas inimical to Christianity, the success rate in China and Indonesia, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, Iran and other places would probably be better.

But doing so they might lose their heads...so rock-solid faith and assurance of salvation doesn't seem to work as well in practice as it does on paper. :)

By all accounts, Islam is doing a much better job of converting people to their "religion of peace" (according to our great leader G W Bush, Jr). Perhaps because it plays even more to egotistic human nature than some 16th century Christian sects, but we won't mention any names... :)

5,300 posted on 05/03/2008 2:38:44 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis; Mad Dawg; stfassisi; Dr. Eckleburg
Yes, where and when you are born has a lot to do with your chances of becoming Christian. Christ left it to His disciples to teach and baptize all nations...so to a large extent it is a task given to the Church.

But even 2,000 years later the Church does not come close to evangelizing "all nations". What does that say? In addition, you appear to be saying that pure luck (i.e. chance environment) is a large determining factor of one's eternal destiny. IF you believe in an all-powerful God, then how can you say He loves everyone equally, if something as important as Heaven vs. hell for eternity is largely decided by luck? You can't. Either He does not love as your side claims, OR, He is not all-powerful.

Perhaps if all the Evangelicals stopped trying to evangelize Christians in Russia and Latin America and instead risked their lives for faith in areas inimical to Christianity, the success rate in China and Indonesia, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, Iran and other places would probably be better.

We're already there. My own pastor just got back from a mission trip to China. Christianity is actually doing much better there than most people know. However, we also love and care about lost people in countries that you claim you "own". We are happy to witness Christ to the scraps that you all don't have time for, so that's what we're doing.

5,356 posted on 05/05/2008 7:09:23 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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