FK to Stfassisi-””He wouldn't. I have no idea why you would ask or what connection you are attempting to draw with Reformed theology. There is none.””
In Post #4981 You said “”All men are evil when they are born””
This is why Reformed theology makes no sense again ,FK,because if the baby that died was born evil than how does it not end up in hell? Does reformed theology teach that there is evil in heaven?
You told Kosta that Hitler could have been saved if he repented before his death,but the innocent child you call evil could not consciously make such a decision.
Do you look at a new born baby and say to yourself...
“look at that evil child”? This sounds ridiculous ,but this is in fact what reformed theology teaches
Dear FK, we are NOT born evil,we are born wounded,thus the need for Baptism
I honestly think that preaching we are born evil could lead someone to justify abortion by thinking they are killing something evil.
Did that thought ever cross your mind,Dear brother?
Indeed. The spirits "locked" up in the evil body. It has been my impression that the Reformed theology has a lot in common with Manichaeism. Their love for Manichean vestiges of Blessed Augustine's early work only seem to reinforce that impression.
No, there is no evil in Heaven. Reformed theology says that all people wind up wherever God predestined them to be, either by inclusion or the logical resultant exclusion. Since the Bible does not appear to be CRYSTAL clear on how it works with babies, or the severely mentally challenged, etc., who have never committed sin nor believed in a way we understand, it is simply up to God. Sovereign God will save whomever He wants. I do not proclaim the names of who those people are.
By contrast, I could say that you must also believe that all abortion victims must wind up in hell because they were never baptized. I'm hoping that you are not a follower of the limbo idea, and would similarly say that God can make what appear to us to be "exceptions" to the "normal rules" that are preached in the scriptures.
Do you look at a new born baby and say to yourself... “look at that evil child”? This sounds ridiculous ,but this is in fact what reformed theology teaches.
No, when I look at a conceived embryo I say to myself, there is one who is under original sin and needs the grace of God to be saved. If God somehow imparts true faith to all of them who are destined to never reach the age of maturity, that is great with me. Or, if God waves His hand and grants an "exception" under the doctrine of common sense, that is fine with me too. Or, if some are saved and some are lost, then again, that is God's business, not mine. The point is whether a person is conceived with enough "inner goodness" to come to God on his own. AND, whether a person can somehow amass enough goodness on his own if he was not conceived with it. We say "no". We say that the Fall REALLY mattered. :)
I honestly think that preaching we are born evil could lead someone to justify abortion by thinking they are killing something evil. Did that thought ever cross your mind,Dear brother?
LOL! No, I can honestly say that thought never crossed my mind. :) One proof to show it doesn't happen is that the folks that hold to that belief are Bible-believing Christians. The true among that group also understand what the Bible teaches about the sanctity of life. While Catholics do great and wonderful work for the Lord on pro-life issues, so do we. I have never known or even heard of a Reformer who wasn't solidly pro-life.