Kosta-Then all the infinats who die go to hell. They are already evil. By Reformed God's design, no doubt. It's a satanic theology, FK, that teaches a God who creates people evil and says they are in his image.
stfassisi-Yes ,it is satanic theology
Well, I'd for one would be careful with that analysis. After all, FK is correct; all men are evil when born. And FK is also correct in that God deliberately and purposefully allowed the fall of man. To deny that is to deny God was powerless to stop Adam and Eve-another point FK made.
Kosta simply comes to the wrong conclusion that all infants who die go to hell. The fact is man is saved by faith through God's grace. It is impossible for us to know the faith of any man, including infants, save our own.
As far as John Calvin's comment "there are babies a span long in hell", I can find no reference to that in my search of his works. Actually, Calvin believed just the opposite if writings about his works are to be believed, that babies automatically go to heaven. This I believe is just as much of an error as saying all babies go to hell. We simply don't know and leave this to the divine wisdom of God who is the justifier of all men.
To deny original sin is simply not recognizing our own depravity. Remember, it was the Catholic Church that believed (at least at one time) in original sin. The Eastern Church never believed it. Arguing in support of the Orthodox position is simply to deny the original teachings of the Western Church.
Prove it!
It is impossible for us to know the faith of any man, including infants, save our own
Infants have faith! LOL! Or maybe the Reformed God justmakes a suitable "crop" of infants that are saved, just as he does adults, and the rest are fire logs...
Remember, it was the Catholic Church that believed (at least at one time) in original sin. The Eastern Church never believed it. Arguing in support of the Orthodox position is simply to deny the original teachings of the Western Church
The Catholic Church, as far as I know, teaches that we are born with the consequences of the original sin (propensity to sin), not with the "guilt."
The Orthodox Church does not deny the original (ancestral) sin. It doesn't (and never did) teach the Augustinian idea of the orignal sin.