That's not true.
Wouldn't that mean that there is nothing behind your faith by simple definition?
Perhaps it is a delusion. That is one possibility of several.
You appear to be unable to obey God when He says through Peter: "1 Peter 3:15..."
You have not shown me that it is God speaking through someone pretending to be Peter. You are telling me that it is. How convincing is that? Not very, FK.
If God gives you faith, as your side also believes, then you don't know why you believe any more than you know why you were born where you were born and why your eyes may be brown or blue or gree. You can only say "because God gave it to me," which is the same as saying "I don't know."
So you are defining that UNLESS a thing comes from man alone, it is irrational?
We can onyl tink and cocneptualize and express within our human limits. That applies to scencie and theology equally. We depend on words and concepts that make up thoses words and by all acocunts they are insufficient because we don't jave eough words to try to describe God.
Our understanding is limted to several factors, one of which is the envornoment and our own intellect. Wiht our intellect, we are forced to interpret everything and all.
Well, I for one KNOW that my faith is stronger because it is in conformity with the reality of our world and existence
You may know but you can't prove it. The reality of the world is a matter of our perception, so the only thing you can say is that your faith is in conformity with your percepton of the world, or it is not.
If you don't think gravity is logical then I can't imagine what you would say IS logical
Logical is that which has a known cause and effect.
We know that God created all matter with gravimetric properties
We do? What verse is that?
Would it be more logical if all matter just floated around in space, and if so, why?
Actually all matter is floating around in space...ever faster and ever expanding...and we don't know why.
Of course, you will say "because God made it so." I suppose God made boils and dementia and demons that "cause" it. And he made deadly snakes and poisonous frogs and probably pink unicorns on Jupiter; makes just as much sense as anything esle, FK. Once every dilemma is "resolved" with "God made it so..." we are positviely in the Dark Ages.
That's not true.
Well, .................................... ? :)
FK: "You appear to be unable to obey God when He says through Peter: "1 Peter 3:15..."
You have not shown me that it is God speaking through someone pretending to be Peter. You are telling me that it is. How convincing is that? Not very, FK.
You appear to accept the writings of the Church Fathers without much or any question, but you have great trouble accepting the authenticity of the Biblical authors themselves. Yet, your Church accepts the authenticity of these writers. Can't I just use your own Church to convince you? :) Or, does Orthodoxy deny that Peter wrote the epistles ascribed to his name, or that scripture is "God's word"?
If God gives you faith, as your side also believes, then you don't know why you believe any more than you know why you were born where you were born and why your eyes may be brown or blue or green. You can only say "because God gave it to me," which is the same as saying "I don't know."
I believe because God gave me irresistible grace. I was born on Long Island because that's where God wanted me to be born, and my eyes are green because that is my wife's favorite color for eyes. That God wants it is not at all the same as "I don't know". God tells us in the Bible to trust Him. By His grace I can do that with full knowledge that it is His will.
FK: "Well, I for one KNOW that my faith is stronger because it is in conformity with the reality of our world and existence."
You may know but you can't prove it. The reality of the world is a matter of our perception, so the only thing you can say is that your faith is in conformity with your perception of the world, or it is not.
Can we of different views have a common perception of the reality of the world? Schaeffer would say "absolutely YES!". However, he passed away 20 or so years ago, and such thinking may very well be passed.
FK: "We know that God created all matter with gravimetric properties."
We do? What verse is that?
I did not say or imply it was from the Bible. We know it now from scientific observation, and mathematical calculations. Gravity is logical to me, as it seems to prove out today and it does not offend scriptures.