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To: Forest Keeper; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; wmfights
Kosta: The horrible conclusion we come to, based on Reformed theology, is that God predestined Hitler for salvation before the foundations of the world knowing the evil he would commit (because God predestined it!!!)

FK: Your conclusion is pure speculation based on something EXTREMELY unlikely. Possible, yes, but likely, no way

I would say impossible, FK. The Christian God would never do that! But the Reformed theology teaches us that their God would, for his own "glory" no less!

I don't know what purpose of God the Holocaust served, I only know there WAS some purpose. It did not happen outside of God's control.

You admitted earlier that God willed evil as a necessary element in his "plan." Here you admit that God had his hand in the Holocaust, exerting divine control over it.

Are you really not capable of seeing where this theology comes from?

4,930 posted on 04/15/2008 8:07:46 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodox is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; wmfights; ...
Kosta: The horrible conclusion we come to, based on Reformed theology, is that God predestined Hitler for salvation before the foundations of the world knowing the evil he would commit (because God predestined it!!!)

FK: Your conclusion is pure speculation based on something EXTREMELY unlikely. Possible, yes, but likely, no way.

Kosta: I would say impossible, FK. The Christian God would never do that! But the Reformed theology teaches us that their God would, for his own "glory" no less!

Yes, if Hitler truly repented and asked Christ into His heart just before he died, then the Reformed God would accept him. I did not know that with the Apostolic God, it is too late for some while they live on earth. One of the reasons the Reformed God is glorified is that it is NEVER too late for anyone to repent.

You admitted earlier that God willed evil as a necessary element in his "plan." Here you admit that God had his hand in the Holocaust, exerting divine control over it.

Where you want to go I cannot follow. Yes, God had control over the Holocaust, but He did not force anyone to sin. The alternative is a weak God who is not in control and just lets whatever happens, happen. That God demonstrates extreme irresponsibility and should have His license to create REVOKED. :)

Are you really not capable of seeing where this theology comes from?

Sure I am. The Holy Scriptures. :)

4,985 posted on 04/19/2008 4:28:00 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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