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To: kosta50; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg
FK: "Do you believe that Job 1:1 has God telling us that Job was without sin?"

No, the author of Job is telling us that Job was "blameless" or "perfect." Since to you the book of Job is "inspired," it must be a true statement, regardless form which point of view; otherwise it's misleading.

But I know what the Bible says: "In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil." (Job 1:1 NIV) "There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil." (Job 1:1 KJV)

Why am I not allowed to take POV into consideration if I believe the Bible is God-breathed? That doesn't follow. The POV is made known either within the passage or through other scripture. Thus it is not misleading. In this case it is internal. Notice that the first clause says he is blameless or perfect and the second says that he feared God. If the first POV is NOT that of men, that men saw him as perfect, THEN the second clause is redundant.

Are you not "justified" by faith? Are you blameless, i.e. "perfect?"

Not before men, like Job was, but in God's eyes, yes. Sounds ironic, doesn't it? :)

How can they know he is perfect and shunned evil? Who can say that for another human being, but God?

By simple observation. Of course it isn't a pronouncement of absolute truth, since we know Job sinned. It amounts to his reputation.

4,613 posted on 03/30/2008 3:05:22 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg
Notice that the first clause says he is blameless or perfect and the second says that he feared God. If the first POV is NOT that of men, that men saw him as perfect, THEN the second clause is redundant.

There is absolutely nothing in Job 1:1 to suggest it is a man's POV. It is stated as truth, a matter of fact that Job is perfect (blameless), that he feared God and that he shunned (eschewed) evil. Fearing God is consistent with an unpright believer.

4,622 posted on 03/30/2008 7:05:13 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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