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To: Forest Keeper; irishtenor; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr
Your pattern is to define all reality into mystery, and then claim that your personal fantasy is plausible BECAUSE it is also mystery. I reject that approach

But, FK, you are telling me what God is like because you a priori accept as truth what is written about Him. I am simply using your own style and it seems to irritate you. Welcome to the club!

You are defining reality according to your beliefs, as a matter of fact. Those who don't share your beliefs are simply classified as spiritually "blind" and "deaf." Yet, you don't have a shred of evidence to prove anything because the "proof" requires that one already believe in order to have the "eyes" and "ears."

If faith is given, then no amount of text-proofing and cherry-picking the Bible will "prove" anything. But the Protestants say God gives faith, yet they use the Bible to "prove" that which they cannot give, namely faith! How silly is that?

What's the use of showing pictures to a blind man? What's the point of playing music to a deaf man? What's the use of showing Bible verses to a nonbeliever? What effort is it to "prove" the Bible to someone who already believes? It's all Protestant/Baptist feel-good, man-made stuff, FK. It's all fluff. It's a same-minded club where everyone goes around quoting the Bible and everyone saying "Amen, Amen!" and patting each other on the back.

To you, the Eucharist is a symbol or a ritual. To the Orthodox and Catholic it is a mystery (sacrament) of God's real presence. It's a matter of belief. It's not something one can objectively prove. And we state it as such every Sunday

It's our belief.

4,361 posted on 03/20/2008 5:32:20 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; irishtenor; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg; Kolokotronis; MarkBsnr
What's the use of showing pictures to a blind man? What's the point of playing music to a deaf man? What's the use of showing Bible verses to a nonbeliever?

A blind man may never see and a deaf man may never hear, but ALL of the elect start as nonbelievers. There's a world of difference.

What effort is it to "prove" the Bible to someone who already believes?

It SHOULD be no effort at all, but it hasn't turned out that way. :)

It's all Protestant/Baptist feel-good, man-made stuff, FK. It's all fluff. It's a same-minded club where everyone goes around quoting the Bible and everyone saying "Amen, Amen!" and patting each other on the back.

What are you talking about? As opposed to what?

4,638 posted on 03/31/2008 2:31:54 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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