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To: kosta50; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg
FK: "One point of the temptation of Jesus was to prove to the world that He understood from first hand experience all the temptations that we face."

What world? Who was demanding a proof?

The nature of man WANTS proof. That's how He built us. The Bible is a testimony FROM God TO us. I'm pulling out my hair here. :)

If he was seen as God by the early Gospels, did they think God needed to learn or proves something?

I honestly don't even know what this means.

And since when is God doing things to prove to the world for the world's sake?

Since Genesis 1:1. For reference, see "The Holy Bible". :)

When I ask for proofs, you tell me that God doesn't condescend to human demands for such proofs. Yet, here he is doing just that!

I have never told you that. No, on many topics you have been given scriptural proofs from many posters, and you have rejected them. That is your choice based on your view of the value of scripture. I will say that my opinion is that among Christians, your view of the value of scriptures is unique.

And if he could not be tempted, as you claim, what proof was made? It was no challenge but a charade.

I don't claim that. Jesus WAS tempted, just as the Bible tells us and Paul explains. Most followers of Christ have learned that Christ fully understands all of our problems, and that He relates to us on a human level. The demonstration in the desert is evidence.

4,293 posted on 03/19/2008 2:13:17 AM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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To: Forest Keeper; blue-duncan; Mad Dawg
The Bible is a testimony FROM God TO us. I'm pulling out my hair here

You mean we believe the Bible is a testimony from God to us?

No, on many topics you have been given scriptural proofs from many posters, and you have rejected them

They were not convincing. Sorry. You have been given proofs by others and you rejected them.

Jesus WAS tempted, just as the Bible tells us and Paul explains. Most followers of Christ have learned that Christ fully understands all of our problems, and that He relates to us on a human level. The demonstration in the desert is evidence

The temptation of Jesus was a charade if He did not have the potential, in His human nature, to succumb just as it would be a charade if He, in His human nature, did not possess the free will to resist. He made the choice that Adam didn't. If He resisted because of His divine nature, then He was not fully human, and His temptation was a charade.

4,343 posted on 03/19/2008 7:34:25 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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